Is the Electric Field Inside an Irregular Shaped Conductor Always Zero?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether the electric field inside an irregularly shaped conductor is always zero, particularly in static situations. Participants explore the implications of charge distribution within conductors and the effects of external electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that in a static situation without an external electric field, the net electric charge at each point within the conductor is zero, leading to a zero electric field throughout the conductor.
  • Another participant proposes that while local charges may not be zero due to displacement under an external field, the overall charge remains balanced, allowing for a zero electric field inside the conductor.
  • A different viewpoint questions whether charges on the surface of a charged conductor would create an electric field within the conductor, challenging the assertion that local charges can arrange themselves to cancel this field.
  • It is noted that the distribution of surface charges is such that it results in no electric field inside the conductor, but this is only applicable in static conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of electric fields within conductors, particularly regarding the effects of surface charge and external fields. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of charge distribution in irregular geometries and the specific conditions under which the electric field is considered to be zero.

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In an irregular shaped charged conductor will the electric field E at all points within the conductor be zero? If yes, then how?
 
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I assume you are talking about a purely static situation.
Without external electric field, the net electric charge in each point of the conductor is zero (lets keep it simple: I assume there are no excess charges in the conductor).
Under the action of an external field, the positive and negative charges in the conductor displaces, so that the net electric charge in each point of the conductor (local charge) is not zero. If you sum the charge of all these points over the whole volume (global charge), it will however remains equal to zero.
The local charges are so smart that they arrange themselves so that the field is zero in the whole conductor. It is however a very difficult task to compute the local distribution for complex geometries.
 
Thanks for the reply. But if a conductor is charged, the charges are spread on its surface. Will not those charges impose an electric field within the conductor? Will the local charges again arrange themselves to cancel the field produced?
 
The trick is that the charges are distributed over the surface precisely such that there is no electric field inside the conductor. This is only true for the static case!
 

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