Is the Graph of y = x^x Significant?

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The graph of y = x^x is notable for its complex behavior, particularly for negative values of x, where it takes on complex values. Users discuss the challenges of plotting this function in Mathematica, especially for negative inputs, and the complexities involved in its derivative. The derivative is expressed as dy/dx = x^x(1 + ln{x}), which is not real for negative x unless in specific forms. The conversation also touches on the multi-valued nature of the function and its relationship to complex analysis, particularly regarding the branch-cut structure of the logarithm. Overall, the significance of the graph lies in its unique mathematical properties and implications in complex analysis.
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Heyyhey...just wondering, is the graph of y = x^x significant in anyway?

it looks kinda weird...?
 
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Chinese cooks usually put the spaghetti threads in that particular shape on your plate.

Other than that, I don't know if that graph is "significant".
 
it is particularly weird for x<0, being that it takes complex values there...
 
benorin said:
it is particularly weird for x<0, being that it takes complex values there...
The Chinese have never liked the negatives.
 
I can't get mathematica to plot this function for negative values. Anyone know how I can do it?
 
I think someone has already answered your question.
it is particularly weird for x<0, being that it takes complex values there...
 
I fail to see how I would be unable to plot it.
 
Complex meaning they are imaginary.
Try x=-1/2
 
Dragonfall said:
I can't get mathematica to plot this function for negative values. Anyone know how I can do it?

Yep, just do Plot[{y=x^2},{x,-10,10}] and you get all the values from -10 to 10 of this super significant function x^x.
 
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arunbg said:
Complex meaning they are imaginary.
Try x=-1/2

Mathematica can plot complex functions, and this function in particular because it's R->C.

heartless said:
Yep, just do Plot[{y=x^2},{x,-10,10}] and you get all the values from -10 to 10 of this super significant function x^x.

How does plotting x^2 give me all the values of x^x?
 
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thnx cool guys... what's the derivative of y=x^x ?
 
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meee said:
thnx cool guys... what's the derivative of y=x^x ?
y=x^x=e^{\ln{x^x}}=e^{x\ln{x}}
\frac{dy}{dx}=(1+\ln{x})e^{x\ln{x}}=(1+\ln{x})x^x
 
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It is much more interesting and informative to plot the hyperpower function f(x) = x^{x^{x^{x^{...}}}}

Find the upper bound of x for which that function is defined and see if you can spot the relationship of that bound to a famous constant.
 
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LeonhardEuler said:
y=x^x=e^{\ln{x^x}}=e^{x\ln{x}}
\frac{dy}{dx}=(1+\ln{x})e^{x\ln{x}}=(1+\ln{x})x^x

\frac{dy}{dx}=x^x(1+\ln{x}) is not real when x is a real negative number, yet if x is negative and of the form x=\frac{p}{2q+1}, where p,q are positive or negative integers, then y is real. Curious, no? It has to do with the complex branch-cut structure of y=x^x=e^{x\ln{x}+2k\pi ix},k=0,\pm 1, \pm 2,\ldots.

Source: "A Course of Modern Analysis" by Whittaker & Watson, pg. 107.
 
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benorin said:
\frac{dy}{dx}=x^x(1+\ln{x}) is not real when x is a real negative number, yet if x is negative and of the form x=\frac{p}{2q+1}, where p,q are positive or negative integers, then y is real. Curious, no? It has to do with the complex branch-cut structure of y=x^x=e^{x\ln{x}+2k\pi ix},k=0,\pm 1, \pm 2,\ldots.

Source: "A Course of Modern Analysis" by Whittaker & Watson, pg. 107.

I'm not sure about this, certainly for x in that domain and of that form, a real value of y exists if y is defined to be multivalued.

But if the principal value of ln(x) is used, which is Ln(x) + \pi i, then the value of y returned won't necessarily be real, right? :confused:

Sorry, I don't know that much about complex analysis, just the basics. I do know the principal branch for ln x, but not the one for x^x. I would've assumed it would be based on the branch cut of the log function, giving x^x = e^{x Ln(x)} = e^{x ln(|x|) + i\pi x} = \frac{\cos{(\pi |x|)} - i\sin{(\pi |x|)}}{|x|^{|x|}} (for negative real x) which would not necessarily return real values even for x of the form \frac{n}{2k+1}
 
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f(x) = x^(x^(x^(x^x)))...
 
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I've always liked that the only critical point of f(x) = x^x is
x = \frac{1}{e}
 

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