Is the magnetic flux density B constant?

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The discussion centers on the constancy of magnetic flux density (B) and magnetic flux (Φ) in a magnetic circuit with varying cross-sectional areas and air gaps. The user is designing an electromagnetic brake and is attempting to calculate the magnetic force generated by the circuit using the equation N*i = Φ1 * R1, where N is the number of coil turns and R is the reluctance. It is established that neither B nor Φ is constant due to the presence of air gaps and varying cross-sections. The saturation flux density (Bsat = 2.13 T) is suggested as a reference for calculations, particularly in relation to the smallest cross-section area.

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Summary:: Is the magnetic flux density B constant? Is the magnetic flux constant?

I am working on a project design for Uni and I am stuck.

In a magnetic circuit is either the magnetic flux or the magnetic flux density B constant? This magnetic circuit has all different cross section areas and air gaps.

I need to calculate the Magnetic Force generated by the circuit and also N*i= Φ1 * R1 + ... (N beeing nº of spirals in a coil and R the reluctance).

I am stuck in a loop because I think neither B nor Φ are constant.
I was told to use saturation flux density (Bsat=2.13) of the material to jump start the calculations, but I am stuck on the question at hand.

Any insight would be appreciated and sorry for the lack of understanding in electromagnetism.
 
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I am working on a project design for Uni and I am stuck.

In a magnetic circuit is either the magnetic flux or the magnetic flux density B constant? This magnetic circuit has all different cross section areas and air gaps. I need to calculate the Magnetic Force generated by the circuit and also N*i= Φ1 * R1 + ... (N beeing nº of spirals in a coil and R the reluctance). I am stuck in a loop because I think neither B nor Φ are constant.

I was told to use saturation flux density (Bsat=2.13) of the material to jump start the calculations, but I am stuck on the question at hand. Any insight would be appreciated and sorry for the lack of understanding in electromagnetism.

This circuit is for an eletromagnetic brake. I have all of the dimensions and reluctances. I also have an estimated current and Number of spires that depending on the results of the question I will have to revise in order too see if they are appropriate. The final objective is for the magnetic force to be equal or larger than a known value.
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I guess you're assuming the core is of a high permmeability material and that the gap is small enough as to make "fringing" negligible. In such a case the ##\vec B## field lines follow the shape of the core (no field outside the core or the gap). Thus, considering##\oint{\vec B \cdot d\vec S}=0## we get ##B_1S_1=B_2S_2## (I skipped several intermediate steps)
 
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Gordianus said:
I guess you're assuming the core is of a high permmeability material and that the gap is small enough as to make "fringing" negligible. In such a case the ##\vec B## field lines follow the shape of the core (no field outside the core or the gap). Thus, considering##\oint{\vec B \cdot d\vec S}=0## we get ##B_1S_1=B_2S_2## (I skipped several intermediate steps)
Could I then assume that Bsat (saturation flux density) is the value of flux density that is applied to the smallest cross section (S) ?
 
Your drawing shows an axisymmetric core (is that O.K.?) but without dimensions. Anyway, I suppose the smallest cross section is around the central "hole". That section shouldn't reach the saturation point of 2. 13 T.
 
Gordianus said:
Your drawing shows an axisymmetric core (is that O.K.?) but without dimensions. Anyway, I suppose the smallest cross section is around the central "hole". That section shouldn't reach the saturation point of 2. 13 T.
The core is a cylinder (9) with a coil runing through it (8). The sallest section are would be the one I painted red and with the arrow in the picture bellow.
I was thinking of considering B a percentage o Bsat, such as B = 70% Bsat
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The force you get goes as the square of B. Thus, working at 70% of Bsat you'll get half the maximum one.
 

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