Is the Proton-to-Electron Mass Ratio Really Changing?

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Recent discussions highlight a potential change in the proton-to-electron mass ratio based on comparisons of hydrogen spectra from laboratory settings and distant quasars. The validity of this claim is questioned, emphasizing the need for independent verification through different methods. The focus is on dimensionless constants, as changes in ratios of like-dimensioned quantities carry more significance than changes in individual dimensionful components. The conversation underscores the importance of understanding these constants in the context of fundamental physics. Overall, the inquiry into the proton-to-electron mass ratio raises meaningful questions about the stability of physical constants.
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There was a recent article in nature on how there was "INDICATIONS OF A CHANGE IN THE PROTON-TO-ELECTRON MASS RATIO have shown up in comparisons of the spectra of hydrogen gas as recorded in a lab with spectra of light coming from hydrogen clouds at the distance of quasars. "


I was just wondering how ture people think this is.
Could this constant really be changing?
 
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Better with a reference : http://Newton.ex.ac.uk/aip/physnews.774.html
 
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As with the purported claim of the changing fine structure constant with time, these things need to be verified independently using a different method to be convincing.

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and, to repeat from older threads, it is these dimensionless "constants" that count. if m_e/m_p changes or if \alpha changes, that means something. claims made about a changing c or G are meaningless. we can only measure these quantities against like dimensioned standards (like a carpenter measuring length with a tape-measure) and we measure or ultiimately sense only dimensionless quanitities. if something has noticeably changed, it was a ratio of like dimensioned quantities and to blame that change on any single dimesionful component (like blaming it on m_p) is misleading.

so at least the OP is inquiring about a meaningful issues.
 
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