Is the Set of Pairs of Real Numbers with Non-Negative First Term a Vector Space?

trixitium
Messages
7
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Determine if the following set is a vector space under the given operations. List all the axioms that fail to hold.

The set of all pairs of real numbers of the form (x,y), where x >= 0, with the standard operations on R^2

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



By the axioms of a vector space the set fail on hold this axiom:

for each u in V, there is an object -u in V, called negative of u, such that u + (-u) = (-u) + u = 0.

If the x term in the pair (x,y) is positive (or zero) then -u = (-x, -y) can not exists. Thus, the negative of u does not exist, and V is not a vector space.

Is this correct?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
trixitium said:

Homework Statement



Determine if the following set is a vector space under the given operations. List all the axioms that fail to hold.

The set of all pairs of real numbers of the form (x,y), where x >= 0, with the standard operations on R^2

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



By the axioms of a vector space the set fail on hold this axiom:

for each u in V, there is an object -u in V, called negative of u, such that u + (-u) = (-u) + u = 0.

If the x term in the pair (x,y) is positive (or zero) then -u = (-x, -y) can not exists. Thus, the negative of u does not exist, and V is not a vector space.

Is this correct?

It's OK as far as you went, but you have some more work to do. You need to check all the axioms. There is at least one more that isn't satisfied.
 
It also fails in:

K is any scalar, u is in V, ku is in V.

u = (x,y)

If I choose k < 0, then ku = k(x,y) = (kx,ky) and kx < 0 and ku is not in V.
 
Note that if the problem had asked only if this was a vector space, you could have stopped after showing one axiom did not hold. But this problem specifically asks you to list all axioms that do not hold.
 
There are two things I don't understand about this problem. First, when finding the nth root of a number, there should in theory be n solutions. However, the formula produces n+1 roots. Here is how. The first root is simply ##\left(r\right)^{\left(\frac{1}{n}\right)}##. Then you multiply this first root by n additional expressions given by the formula, as you go through k=0,1,...n-1. So you end up with n+1 roots, which cannot be correct. Let me illustrate what I mean. For this...
Back
Top