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Hi,

I have this integral:

\int_0^∞ \ln(1+x)\,e^{-x}\,dx

Is there any closed form expression for it?

Thanks
 
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S_David said:
Hi,

I have this integral:

\int_0^∞ \ln(1+x)\,e^{-x}\,dx

Is there any closed form expression for it?

Thanks
Integration by parts shows that the result contains the Exponential integral function Ei evaluated in -1.
Depends of whether you call that a closed form expression.
 
Samy_A said:
Integration by parts shows that the result contains the Exponential integral function Ei evaluated in -1.
Depends of whether you call that a closed form expression.

No, I need it in basic functions that have simple derivatives.
 
S_David said:
No, I need it in basic functions that have simple derivatives.
Well, the derivative of Ei is ##\frac{e^x}{x}##.
 
Samy_A said:
Integration by parts shows that the result contains the Exponential integral function Ei evaluated in -1.
Depends of whether you call that a closed form expression.

OK, thanks. Does ##e^{-x}## goes to zero faster than ##\ln(1+x)## goes to infility as ##x→∞##?
 
S_David said:
OK, thanks. Does ##e^{-x}## goes to zero faster than ##\ln(1+x)## goes to infility as ##x→∞##?
Yes. If not your integral wouldn't give a finite result. ##e^{-x}## also goes to zero faster than any polynomial goes to infinity as ##x→+∞##.
 
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OK. I worked the analysis, and it won't work with me. I have something like this

<br /> \int_0^∞ \ln(1+s\,x)\,e^{-x}\,dx<br />

and I need to find

<br /> \frac{\partial}{\partial s}\int_0^∞ \ln(1+s\,x)\,e^{-x}\,dx<br />

from which I need to find ##s##. The integral is a complicated function of the argument ##s##.
 
S_David said:
OK. I worked the analysis, and it won't work with me. I have something like this

<br /> \int_0^∞ \ln(1+s\,x)\,e^{-x}\,dx<br />

and I need to find

<br /> \frac{\partial}{\partial s}\int_0^∞ \ln(1+s\,x)\,e^{-x}\,dx<br />

from which I need to find ##s##. The integral is a complicated function of the argument ##s##.
See https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/derivative-of-integral.853211/

As discussed there, you actually need to find the Fréchet derivative of the functional acting on the function s. I have made some comments on this in that topic, but I don't think you found them very helpful, so I will rest my case. However, I wanted to point out that this problem was already discussed.
 
Krylov said:
See https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/derivative-of-integral.853211/

As discussed there, you actually need to find the Fréchet derivative of the functional acting on the function s. I have made some comments on this in that topic, but I don't think you found them very helpful, so I will rest my case. However, I wanted to point out that this problem was already discussed.

It is not that I found your comments unhelpful, but I just wanted to know enough to do the analysis, without going into the details. If I follow the same logic as the paper I attached there, and applied it to my problem here, I will have the p.d.f of ##x## appearing in the derivative. How to handle this when I need some numerical results?
 
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