Is there a relativistic version of the work-energy theorem?

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The discussion centers around the existence of a relativistic version of the work-energy theorem, exploring its applicability in different reference frames and the implications of relativistic effects on work and energy. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning related to classical and relativistic physics.

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  • One participant questions whether there is a relativistic version of the work-energy theorem, referencing its classical formulation and its validity across reference frames.
  • Another participant asserts that the classical version applies to relativity but notes that the results differ, implying a distinction without elaborating on the specifics.
  • A participant presents a mathematical derivation of work in a relativistic context, leading to the expression W=(γ-1)mc² for kinetic energy, suggesting a connection between work and relativistic energy changes.
  • There are mentions of integrating force over distance and the application of Lorentz transformations to relate different inertial frames, indicating the complexity of the discussion.
  • A later reply questions the implications of having two different inertial frames in the context of the work-energy theorem.

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Participants express differing views on the applicability of the work-energy theorem in relativistic contexts, with no consensus reached on whether a distinct relativistic version exists or how classical formulations adapt to relativistic scenarios.

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Some mathematical steps and assumptions in the derivations are not fully resolved, and the discussion reflects varying interpretations of the theorem's applicability across different reference frames.

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The work-energy theorem is stated here on Wikipedia. On the same page it says "regardless of the choice of reference frame, the work energy theorem remains valid and the work done on the object is equal to the change in kinetic energy."

I am wondering if there is a relativistic version of the work-energy theorem.

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Jake
 
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jaketodd said:
I am wondering if there is a relativistic version of the work-energy theorem.

No. The classical version applies to relativity too. But the result is different.
 
[itex]W=\Delta E_k=(\gamma -1)mc^2[/itex]

Just integrate force over some distance, starting from rest:

[tex]W=\int Fdx=\int \frac{dp~dx}{dt}=\int vdp=vp-\int pdv=\gamma mv^2-\int \gamma mvdv[/tex]

What you end up with is:

[itex]W=\gamma mc^2+C[/itex]

with some constant of integration C. If you set v=0, you take W=0 and γ=1, therefore C=-mc2. So what you get is:

[itex]W=\gamma mc^2-mc^2=(\gamma -1)mc^2=E_k[/itex]
 
In general, [itex]W=\int F dx[/itex], but the Lorentz transformations tell you the relationship between dx in the two different inertial frames as [itex]dx = {{dx'}\over{\sqrt{1-{{v^2}\over{c^2}}}}}[/itex].
 
Pengwuino said:
In general, [itex]W=\int F dx[/itex], but the Lorentz transformations tell you the relationship between dx in the two different inertial frames as [itex]dx = {{dx'}\over{\sqrt{1-{{v^2}\over{c^2}}}}}[/itex].

Two different inertial frames?
 

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