Is there a true singularity in nature?

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The discussion centers on the existence of singularities in physical models, particularly in the context of black holes and the limitations of Einstein's equations. The original poster questions whether any singularities have been experimentally confirmed or if they are merely artifacts of theoretical models. They express skepticism about the existence of singularities in nature, suggesting that a comprehensive theory of quantum gravity might resolve these issues similarly to how renormalization in quantum electrodynamics addresses singularities. Another participant acknowledges the existence of true singularities, specifically mentioning wave dislocations and caustics as examples. The conversation highlights the ongoing debate about the nature of singularities and their implications for our understanding of the universe.
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I am well aware that a number of physical models contain or predict
singularities. My question is: Is there any experimental evidence that
any singularity actually exists or are they all artifacts of the
models?

Lest someone jump right in with the singularity at the center of a
black hole, let me say that, although the various solutions of
Einstein's Equation have provided much useful guidance in
understanding the structure of the universe, as far as I know, the
center of a star or BH is outside of the range (or is it domain) of
applicability of the various solutions because they presume a non-zero
stress-energy tensor. In point of fact, we do not know what is in
there, we just know about the effects at and/or outside of the event
horizon.

It is my belief that there are no singularities in nature. I am
looking for evidence that I am wrong.

Note that renormalization in QED 'takes care of' the singularities,
i.e. they are not really there, just in an incomplete model. I suspect
that a comprehensive theory of quantum gravity may exhibit similar
behavior. Meanwhile, our ingenuity in constructing mathematical models
is less ingenious than Reality itself.

For your kind consideration,

George D. Freeman IV, aka

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the softrat said:
I am well aware that a number of physical models contain or predict
singularities. My question is: Is there any experimental evidence that
any singularity actually exists or are they all artifacts of the
models?

There are true singularities. Wave dislocations are zeroes with indeterminate phase:

http://www.phy.bris.ac.uk/people/berry_mv/the_papers/Berry034.pdf

And caustics, which are infinite in intensity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caustic_(optics)

Those are the only two I know of.
 
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