Is There a Universal Redshift Formula for Arbitrary Spacetime Metrics?

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The discussion centers on the search for a universal redshift formula applicable to arbitrary spacetime metrics along light-like geodesics, without relying on specific symmetries or expressions like the FRW metric. Participants express the need for a general expression that can accommodate unspecified light-like geodesics, highlighting the complexity of deriving such a formula due to the dependence on the metric and observer characteristics. The conversation references existing work, including the Bunn and Hogg paper, while acknowledging its limitations in addressing the general case. The challenge lies in reconciling local and global definitions of parameters like the scale factor and Hubble parameter, which complicates the formulation of a universal redshift equation. Ultimately, the consensus is that while some progress has been made, a fully general solution remains elusive.
  • #51
There is no need to look at problem 5.4 (a specific case), because the general method (not just for isotropic observers, and not just for cosmological models) is given in the second paragraph of section 5.3. This paragraph leads quickly and directly to the equation that Tom quoted.
 
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  • #52
Do you mean where he says "Thus, we can always find the observed frequency by calculating the null geodesic determined by the initial value..."?
 
  • #53
WannabeNewton said:
Do you mean where he says "Thus, we can always find the observed frequency by calculating the null geodesic determined by the initial value..."?

Yes, except that I get the reciprocal of what Tom wrote. Applying 5.3.1 twice, once at P and once at Q gives

<br /> 1+z = \frac{\lambda_Q}{\lambda_P} = \frac{\omega_P}{\lambda_Q} = \frac{g \left(k , u \right)_P}{g \left(k , u \right)_Q}<br />

There is a change of notation based on the coordinate representation of the lightlike k.

Assume that s is an affine parametrization of the lightlike worldline and that x^\mu is a coordinate system. Loosely,

k= \frac{d}{ds} = \frac{dx^\mu}{ds}\frac{\partial}{\partial x^\mu}

Denote the derivative with respect to s by dot.
 
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