Is there any job for a person who loves pure mathematics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the career prospects for individuals who are passionate about pure mathematics. Participants explore the potential job opportunities available beyond teaching, including considerations of related fields such as theoretical physics and computer science.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern that the only job available for someone focused on pure mathematics is a teaching position, questioning if there are better opportunities.
  • Another participant asserts that pursuing pure mathematics will likely lead to professor roles, which inherently involve teaching responsibilities.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that there may be jobs outside of academia for those with a pure mathematics background, referencing discussions on MathOverflow for further insights.
  • Some participants emphasize that the definition of "pure math" significantly influences the job market and opportunities available.
  • One suggestion is to consider a career that allows for financial stability while still engaging in mathematics, such as teaching part-time or pursuing a fallback position in education.
  • Another participant humorously proposes the idea of becoming wealthy quickly to then pursue mathematics freely, though this is met with skepticism regarding the certainty of such a path.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the availability of jobs for pure mathematicians outside of teaching. While some assert that teaching is the primary option, others argue that there are alternative paths, though the discussion remains unresolved on the specifics of those opportunities.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying definitions of "pure math" and the implications of those definitions on career prospects, highlighting the subjective nature of the topic.

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Well, I'm 19, I love pure mathematics and I'm determined to follow my heart in my life. but recently this idea has been in my head that there is no job for a pure mathematician except teaching math. I love teaching math to other people but don't want it to be my future career. Do you think that a person who studies pure mathematics can find any better jobs? and Will I have better job opportunities if I switch to theoretical physics or something else that is closely related to mathematics? (like CS)
 
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No. If you insist on "pure" mathematics you will be looking at professor positions, all of which will involve teaching at some point in your career.
 
fss said:
No. If you insist on "pure" mathematics you will be looking at professor positions, all of which will involve teaching at some point in your career.

I'm not sure if you're saying there are no jobs (aside from being a professor) for someone that has studied pure math, of if you're saying that there are no jobs for someone that insists on continuing to work exclusively in the realm of pure math.

I don't think I would agree with either statement, regardless. Since I'm not speaking from personal experience, I'll simply link to MathOverflow. Populated as it is with easily recognizable mathematicians, I'm willing to place my (not so easily given) faith in their responses.

Here is one good discussion: http://mathoverflow.net/questions/36326/how-to-transition-from-pure-math-phd-to-nonacademic-career

And here is another: http://mathoverflow.net/questions/36224/what-jobs-are-there-in-pure-math-besides-being-a-professor/36244#36244

Edit: Twofish usually chimes in on these threads as well, though if you simply search for some of his posts you'll find some useful, relevant information (even though I think he has a Physics background).
 
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DarrenM said:
...or if you're saying that there are no jobs for someone that insists on continuing to work exclusively in the realm of pure math.

This is what I was saying. Depending on your definition of "pure math" it is absolutely true.
 
fss said:
This is what I was saying. Depending on your definition of "pure math" it is absolutely true.

Ok, that is fair. I concede that point, but it really does depend on how one defines "pure math" as you said.
 
or you could first make it big and rich quickly, retire, and then do math for the rest of your life.
 
How can you be certain to get rich quickly? You might work 100 hours a week for a big bank, but you might get laid off or can't handle the pressure...

As you like teaching mathematics, why not aim to be a professor with a fall back position of being a school teacher? It doesn't have to be "your career", just what you do to make money. Just do the teaching and forget about doing all the rubbish extras that career grubbers do... (volunteer sports teaching, teacher meetings, career development...)

School teachers get long holidays and mathematics teachers don't have to spend much time marking (no long essays to read!) So by not doing "extras" you'll have lots of free time to *do* mathematics - you could even work part-time or do supply teaching to cut down the teaching hours...

Read Isaacson's biography of Einstein - he found time to develop his theories while school teaching. William Golding did most of the writing that got him the Nobel prize while school teaching. As writing, or doing mathematics, requires a lot of time alone, teaching is great complement - after a few hours teaching kids you will be happy to spend a few hours alone, quietly working!
 

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