Is this burnout? 4th year physics major

In summary: Plus, I'm still doing an undergrad thesis at the same time (and it's a very big project). I don't know what to do!
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I was hoping to get some other perspectives on this and then see how the next few weeks are before making any stupid decisions like talking to my advisor about it. I'm in the perfect situation for applying to grad schools if I work my *** off - but I'm sick of the whole thing. Only I don't know if it's burnout or if grad school & physics really just isn't right for me.


Here is my situation:

This is my last year of undergrad. I've signed up for PGRE's, have been looking at schools, and have some excellent opportunities & a really really good recommendation letter.

I am completely overworked. I can't take more than Friday night off without paying for it later (last week I didn't even have time for that). I don't have enough time to study for the PGRE's if I also want to not burn out/get enough sleep. This semester, I am *only now* just continuing my summer research, putting in 6 hours a week. The professor is pushing for me to work, because if my results are right we can publish them. He also said it was my job to convince him I wanted to do research in grad school when I mentioned spending my spare time on the PGRE's instead of research. And I've told him about being overworked.


Here is my problem:

After taking two months off from research, I don't want to work on it anymore! I want to just walk away, even though I know I won't - I need the research to graduate! I really liked working on it over the summer... but I think it was the research environment that I liked, not the topic. And also a combination of pride in my work, ambition, and enjoying getting it to work. (The prof I'm working under thinks I love it or something, because of the amount of work I put in over the summer.)

I am jealous of the engineers I see working on fun, cool projects, and then actually having afternoons and weekends off. I am contemplating applying to programming jobs after graduation - or trying to get an internship for the summer and next year, so that I get an EE degree & dual major. In my spare time I read stuff on computers and math, not physics.

But I'm wondering if this is just me getting burned out - I do like the research environment, even if I don't like what I am actually working on. I don't want to throw away these opportunities. I don't want to throw away the huge amounts of work I've put into this. But I have no idea what area I'm going to graduate school for - the whole thing is a gamble. And I don't have the time to really explore.


Has anyone else here gone through anything similar?
 
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Yes, I went through something quite similar as you. It was even around the same period: in my third year of university, just before doing my masters. I was quite overworked and had various psychological issues (where were enhanced by me working a lot). I didn't enjoy my math classes anymore and I was wanting to do something else.

So, when I started my masters, I took a lot of classes which were only vaguely related to math like philosophy, psychology, history,... But, after a while I discovered that I absolutely hated those classes. And I was looking forward to the moment that I could do math again. From then on, I started enjoying my math classes again because I realized that I wouldn't enjoy the alternative either. But all in all, it did take more than a year before I finally got out of the burn out.

Now, I don't know what you should do about your situation. I don't guarantee that you will eventually enjoy physics if you keep doing it. But it does seem that you're working very hard all the time and that's not good.

I recommend that you maybe see a psychologist. They have experience with people having burn outs. Maybe they know what you can do?
 
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I am in the exact same situation! I'm registered for the GRE's (November) and the whole lot in my 4th year, but I still haven't worked out how I'm going to fit in time to study for them without totally sacrificing daily review of lectures. I've got an amount of coursework to do that is abnormally high for graduating (at the university I am at as an exchange student, but its "normal" at my home university) plus I've got a Msc. research project to start this week that lasts the whole year (fortunately I really like the research topic, but all the background reading is taking up a lot of time).

I finished my 3rd year just this summer with 2 final exams that really left me frustrated (spent the whole summer studying for them and got grades I really thought I didn't deserve). I haven't had a real summer break since my 2nd year and it is starting to catch up.

I love physics and I really like my project, but all the bureaucracy required to pursue it professionally (standardized exams, ~10-15 applications, SOP's, etc.) isn't letting my focus on it!
 
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In the past two school years, I never took any night off except for during breaks like fall break or spring break. Even on Friday nights I had to grade homework. There was even once or twice when I sobbed in the library thinking I just want to take one day off. Even in a situation like that, I never thought about quitting math. Since I worked so damn hard in my sophomore and junior years, I can have a bit extra time for myself during my senior year now. I am 100% sure that I want to go to grad school and I'm very ready.

Going to grad school when you are having second thoughts is risky. Some people make it through and some don't. But you can always change your mind, as long as you are willing to pay a price for it. Definitely talk to your advisor about it. But most importantly, you have to figure out what YOU want. Good luck.
 
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I would say that it is important for you to take a step back and evaluate your feelings and motivations. Burnout is a very real issue, especially in demanding fields like physics. It is possible that you are experiencing burnout, but it is also important to consider whether physics and grad school are truly the right fit for you.

It sounds like you are feeling overwhelmed and overworked, which can be signs of burnout. But it is also worth considering whether your lack of interest in the research topic is a contributing factor. It may be helpful to talk to your advisor or a mentor about your feelings and discuss potential options for exploring different areas of research.

You also mentioned feeling jealous of engineers and contemplating a career change. This could be a sign that physics may not be the right path for you. It is important to consider your long-term goals and what will make you happy and fulfilled in your career.

Ultimately, it is important for you to take care of your mental and emotional well-being. If taking a break or exploring other options will help prevent burnout and allow you to make a more informed decision about your future, then it is worth considering. Don't be afraid to talk to your advisor or seek out other resources for support and guidance. Remember, your well-being should always come first.
 

1. What are the signs of burnout in a 4th year physics major?

Some signs of burnout in a 4th year physics major may include feeling exhausted or overwhelmed, loss of motivation or interest in coursework, difficulty concentrating, and physical symptoms such as headaches or sleep disturbances.

2. How is burnout different from normal stress?

Burnout is a state of chronic stress that is characterized by physical, emotional, and mental exhaustion. Unlike normal stress, which is temporary and can be managed with self-care and relaxation techniques, burnout may require more significant changes in lifestyle and coping strategies.

3. Can burnout affect academic performance in a 4th year physics major?

Yes, burnout can significantly impact academic performance in a 4th year physics major. Burnout can lead to decreased productivity, difficulty retaining information, and poor performance on exams and assignments. It may also affect motivation and interest in coursework, leading to a decline in grades.

4. What can a 4th year physics major do to prevent burnout?

To prevent burnout, a 4th year physics major can prioritize self-care practices such as regular exercise, healthy eating, and sufficient sleep. It is also important to set realistic goals and boundaries, seek support from friends and family, and seek help from a therapist or counselor if needed.

5. Is it common for 4th year physics majors to experience burnout?

Yes, it is common for 4th year physics majors to experience burnout. The intense workload and pressure in a physics major can contribute to burnout, especially in the final year of study. It is important for students to be aware of the signs of burnout and take steps to prevent and manage it.

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