Is this the Correct Equation for Approximating y(0.8) Using Euler's Method?

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The correct equation for approximating y(0.8) using Euler's Method is y(0.8)=y(0.4)+(\Delta{t} \times y^{\prime}(0.4)). This conclusion is based on the provided initial value problem (IVP) where dy/dx=-2y and y(0)=1. The recursion formula derived is y_{n+1}=y_{n}(1-2\Delta t), leading to various approximations for y(0.4) and y(0.8) using different values of Δt. The calculations confirm that the top equation yields the correct approximation of 0.20000 for y(0.4).

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OK, my homework system says that the 0.20000 is correct... but all of my others are incorrect...

Is this the correct term for the top right box?:confused:

y(0.8)=y(0.4)+(\Delta{t} \times y^{\prime}(0.4))
OR
y(0.8)=y(0.4)-(\Delta{t} \times y^{\prime}(0.4))

According to the 0.20000 answer... the top one is correct.

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Since you have been given another problem, I'll work the original in full.

We are given:

$\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=-2y$ where $\displaystyle y(0)=1$

I would generalize as follows:

Using Euler's method for this IVP, we find the recursion:

$\displaystyle y_{n+1}=y_{n}\left(1-2\Delta t \right)$ where $\displaystyle y_0=1$

which gives us the closed-form:

$\displaystyle y_n=\left(1-2\Delta t \right)^n$

a) To approximate $\displaystyle y(0.4)$, we find with:

i) $\displaystyle \Delta t=0.4\,\therefore\,n=1$ we have

$\displaystyle y(0.4)\approx y_1=1-2(0.4)=0.2$

ii) $\displaystyle \Delta t=0.2\,\therefore\,n=2$ we have

$\displaystyle y(0.4)\approx y_2=(1-2(0.2))^2=0.36$

iii) $\displaystyle \Delta t=0.1\,\therefore\,n=4$ we have

$\displaystyle y(0.4)\approx y_4=(1-2(0.1))^4=0.4096$

iv) $\displaystyle \Delta t=0.05\,\therefore\,n=8$ we have

$\displaystyle y(0.4)\approx y_8=(1-2(0.05))^8=0.43046721$

b) To approximate $\displaystyle y(0.8)$, we find with:

i) $\displaystyle \Delta t=0.4\,\therefore\,n=2$ we have

$\displaystyle y(0.4)\approx y_2=(1-2(0.4))^2=0.04$

ii) $\displaystyle \Delta t=0.2\,\therefore\,n=4$ we have

$\displaystyle y(0.4)\approx y_4=(1-2(0.2))^4=0.1296$

iii) $\displaystyle \Delta t=0.1\,\therefore\,n=8$ we have

$\displaystyle y(0.4)\approx y_8=(1-2(0.1))^8=0.16777216$

iv) $\displaystyle \Delta t=0.05\,\therefore\,n=16$ we have

$\displaystyle y(0.4)\approx y_{16}=(1-2(0.05))^{16}=0.185302018885$
 
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Suppose we are given the IVP:

$\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=ky$ where $\displaystyle 0\ne k\in{R}$ and $\displaystyle y(x_0)=y_0$

We then obtain using Euler's method:

$\displaystyle y_{n+1}=y_0(1+k\Delta x)^n$

where $\displaystyle \Delta x=\frac{x_n-x_0}{n}$

So, by solving the IVP, we should expect then that:

$\displaystyle y_0\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(1+\frac{k(x_n-x_0)}{n} \right)^n=y_0e^{k(x_n-x_0)}$

You should verify this is true using L'Hôpital's rule.
 
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In the table at the top the y(0.4)=y(t_{k}).

You have the equation t_{k}=\Delta{t} \times k

You know the y(t_{k}) , as well as the \Delta{t}, you then just solve for "k"!

"k" is the number of iterations of it that you have to do.
 
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