Is this the ultimate guitar for me?

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The discussion revolves around various guitar models, with participants expressing their preferences and experiences. One user admires the Ibanez RG1570, while another mentions their own S470 guitar, highlighting its playability and personal satisfaction. There's a conversation about the cost of guitars, with prices ranging from $500 to $900, and the idea that investing in a good guitar can enhance musical expression, even for beginners. Users share their learning journeys, with one mentioning they are learning Spanish guitar and progressing to playing songs. The discussion touches on the emotional connection to guitars, comparing them to cherished items rather than mere objects. Acoustic guitars are also appreciated, with users discussing their favorite styles and artists. The conversation concludes with a focus on the importance of finding the right guitar that suits individual preferences and playing styles, emphasizing that personal satisfaction in music is paramount.
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http://www.ibanez.com/guitars/models/RG1570RB.jpg
 
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Whoa, that's a tasty guitar.

But i prefer this one, http://

Absolutely Gorgeous
 
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I also have an S470 -- awesome guitar. Everytime I go to a guitar store and play other guitars I'm simply reminded how amazing mine is.

- Warren
 
im not good enough yet to warrant myself paying aload of money for a good guitar, but someday.
 
Fine Zero! I am also learning Spanish guitar :)
Just finished the chords :(
But soon I can play songs :)
 
Originally posted by Andy
Whoa, that's a tasty guitar.

But i prefer this one, http://

Absolutely Gorgeous
Yeah, and probabaly $10,000 too!

I likes mine just fine, thanks...nice enough to want to play it constantly ,not so nice that I'm afraid to take it out of the case.
 
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And, I think it complements my OTHER love...

http://www.espguitars.com/images/guitars/EC1000_stbc.jpg
 
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Yea, i would never want to play that one. I think my mate has a very simliar Ibanez to yours but probably a couple of models down, think his cost £500.
 
Originally posted by chroot
I also have an S470 -- awesome guitar. Everytime I go to a guitar store and play other guitars I'm simply reminded how amazing mine is.

- Warren
What's that got, a 22-fret Wizard II neck? Probably plays just like the RG, since the neck is like 2 mm thicker. I just don't like the slender body as much...
 
  • #10
Whoa, how much did you shell out on these beauties?
 
  • #11
Originally posted by Andy
im not good enough yet to warrant myself paying aload of money for a good guitar, but someday.
Well, it is always worth having a better guitar...they make it easier for you to express yourself, even if you aren't great.
 
  • #12
Originally posted by Moni
Fine Zero! I am also learning Spanish guitar :)
Just finished the chords :(
But soon I can play songs :)
Keep at it! We all have to start somewhere, and you'll be playing songs before you know it!
 
  • #13
Originally posted by Andy
Whoa, how much did you shell out on these beauties?
The ESP was $800($900 once I got done with changing a pickup) , the Ibanez was $560...plus $150 once I throw some new pickups in it.
 
  • #14
Origionally posted By Zero
Well, it is always worth having a better guitar...they make it easier for you to express yourself, even if you aren't great.

Yea, but my wallet is struggling to keep up with my spending, especially with a new car coming.
 
  • #15
Originally posted by Zero
Keep at it! We all have to start somewhere, and you'll be playing songs before you know it!

Thanks! Zero :)
Yes! You are correct, where I learn guitar (from a member of a local Band group) everyone tryies to play songs before learning it...actually they don't want to wait to finish all the grammers ;)

Btw, what's the company of your guitar?
I don't have electric one...it's Givson Jumbo :)
My boss (Band member) says for learning purpose, acoustic guitar is fine :)
 
  • #16
Originally posted by Andy
Yea, but my wallet is struggling to keep up with my spending, especially with a new car coming.
Well, what have you got now?
 
  • #17
Originally posted by Moni
Thanks! Zero :)
Yes! You are correct, where I learn guitar (from a member of a local Band group) everyone tryies to play songs before learning it...actually they don't want to wait to finish all the grammers ;)

Btw, what's the company of your guitar?
I don't have electric one...it's Givson Jumbo :)
My boss (Band member) says for learning purpose, acoustic guitar is fine :)
The blue one is an Ibanez...and you probably wouldn't want to learn to play on one of those.

Did you mean a Gibson Jumbo acoustic? Jeez, those are great guitars, you are a lucky player to get to learn on one of those!

I wish I had learned properly the first time around, I have spent the last year unlearning bad habits.
 
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I have a Yamaha Pacifica, i have been looking for a picture of it but can't find one, can only find custon models. But it cost my parents about £100.

I have been teaching myself how to play for about a year now, although it hasnt been nonstop. I figured that when i can play all of the sweet child O'mine solo then i would get me a new one.
 
  • #19
Originally posted by Andy
I have a Yamaha Pacifica, i have been looking for a picture of it but can't find one, can only find custon models. But it cost my parents about £100.

I have been teaching myself how to play for about a year now, although it hasnt been nonstop. I figured that when i can play all of the sweet child O'mine solo then i would get me a new one.
Actually, Pacificas aren't that bad at all...you could do worse for a first guitar.
 
  • #20
Cool, i don't think there is anything wrong with it, but i have played on a mates Guitar, tis one which Steve Vai uses/used and it feels so much better than my little baby.

But i do quite like the Guitar that slash uses in the Sweet Child O'Mine Video. That would probably be the guitar i go for next.
 
  • #21
Originally posted by Andy
Cool, i don't think there is anything wrong with it, but i have played on a mates Guitar, tis one which Steve Vai uses/used and it feels so much better than my little baby.

But i do quite like the Guitar that slash uses in the Sweet Child O'Mine Video. That would probably be the guitar i go for next.
You know you can get a decent Epiphone Les Paul for about $500...worth doing if you like that sort of body style...wait wait wait...


You can get this for about $450(which I guess is like £250): http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/51/518568.jpg
 
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Thats nice, where abouts is that too?
 
  • #23
i like the look of this baby!

http://www.music123.com/item/?itemno=41491

but then i have always had a soft spot for Yngwie Malmsteen
 
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  • #24
Your new love is a GUITAR??!
Zero, a GUITAR?!

Criminy. And here I thought "Awwww...how sweet. Zero went and got himself a girlfriend. Or maybe even a new puppy..."

Ivan says "Hey! At least it has a HOLE in it!"

edit: And then I looked at it again - NO IT DOESN'T!
 
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Hey Hey, a guitar is not just an object! Like a car or a 6-pack of beer it is a cherished item!

When i hear a guitar play it can mean more to me than the words in a song. I suppose its the love of the music really.
 
  • #26
Originally posted by jimmy p
Like a car or a 6-pack of beer it is a cherished item!


Oh.
 
  • #27
Is it battery operated?
 
  • #28
huh? is what battery operated? [?] [?] [?] [?]
 
  • #29
Originally posted by Tsunami
Is it battery operated?

Ummm...one of my guitars is battery-powered...
 
  • #30
I have a fender copy cheapo which is basically a relfection of my playing skills, but my uncle has this:

http://www.tundramusic.com/GallDes.php?SK=110024

/drool
 
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  • #31
Originally posted by Tsunami
Is it battery operated?

/rolls eyes. OK think of it in your terms as being similarly valuable to those ceramic cow figurines or whatever it is that you collect as "nick nacks". It could be any number of things that don't add any financial value to the household and probably makes ivan roll his eyespotholders, some type of ceramic figures, dolls, bears, anything that requires you to actually buy separate display appendature(you know what I'm talking about..hehehe) When you spend ongodly amounts of money on that stuff, do we say "does it really moo?" NOOOOOOOOOOO...That is how we men see it- A man and his axe- it'ss a beautiful thing
 
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Originally posted by Zantra
I have a fender copy cheapo which is basically a relfection of my playing skills, but my uncle has this:

http://www.tundramusic.com/GallDes.php?SK=110024

/drool

OOOOHHHH man that guitar is SEXY! your uncle must be very proud. its...beautiful, just like shiny objects...
 
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  • #33
Originally posted by Zantra
/rolls eyes. OK think of it in your terms as being similarly valuable to those ceramic cow figurines or whatever it is that you collect as "nick nacks". It could be any number of things that don't add any financial value to the household and probably makes ivan roll his eyespotholders, some type of ceramic figures, dolls, bears, anything that requires you to actually buy separate display appendature(you know what I'm talking about..hehehe) When you spend ongodly amounts of money on that stuff, do we say "does it really moo?" NOOOOOOOOOOO...That is how we men see it- A man and his axe- it'ss a beautiful thing
Oh, AXE! I thought you misspelled that!
OK, seriously. Every one of these beauties are exquisite. I can't really relate to what you mean about 'nick nacks', tho. While I do have them to give the house that kind of 'homey' feel, I've never spent a great deal of money on them, and I could loose them all in a fire tomorrow and not really care. My mother's two Hummel figurines are the exception. While they are very sweet looking, I'm not really a figurine fan, but they were my mother's, so therein lies the value. Now, my cousin has his apartment decorated with about 5-6 really awesome surfboards! THAT's some spendy decor! Actually he also has numerous bass guitars interplaced between the boards... Yeah. I guess you're right, Zantra. A man and his ass (er, sorry - AXE) - yeah, it's a beautiful thing...
I must admit to being a big fan of acoustic guitars. 12-string. Have you ever heard Roy Orbison play classical Spanish guitar? Phenomenal! My preference, though, leans more toward the good old classic hardcore acid rock - Hendrix, Zeppelin... But I'd rather decorate my house with Bob Plant himself than his guitar! <--that's not a silly face - that's me doing the Zoobie Drool!
 
  • #34
I just have a crap $100 Yamaha Bass (I don't know which model).
I keep telling myself that I will learn to play, but I don't really believe myself.
That's not why I posted on this, though.

I know nothing of the quality of These Guitars, but I love the look of them, and this sounds pretty good.
I think they are beautiful works of art.
I think my favorites are Electric Autumn (Image) and Eden (Image, Specs).
Dragon Lyre (Image, Specs) is pretty damned cool too! It has a 6 string neck, a 12 string neck and an 18 string Celtic Harp.

I also have no idea whether they are in the $1,000 range or $10,000 range, but I'd like to know.
Dragon heads carved of figured maple
Ivory teeth, eyes of jade and rubies
Tear drops of pearl
(Medieval Europeans thought pearls were dragon tears)
Judging from that description of Dragon Lyre, I would guess it is closer to $10,000 than $1,000.
 
  • #35
I forgot to mention that you can also commission him to build a custom guitar of your own design.
 
  • #36
Those are STUNNING! I'd love to hear that Dragon Lyre! Got a link?
 
  • #37
Originally posted by Tsunami
Oh, AXE! I thought you misspelled that!
OK, seriously. Every one of these beauties are exquisite. I can't really relate to what you mean about 'nick nacks', tho. While I do have them to give the house that kind of 'homey' feel, I've never spent a great deal of money on them, and I could loose them all in a fire tomorrow and not really care. My mother's two Hummel figurines are the exception. While they are very sweet looking, I'm not really a figurine fan, but they were my mother's, so therein lies the value. Now, my cousin has his apartment decorated with about 5-6 really awesome surfboards! THAT's some spendy decor! Actually he also has numerous bass guitars interplaced between the boards... Yeah. I guess you're right, Zantra. A man and his ass (er, sorry - AXE) - yeah, it's a beautiful thing...
I must admit to being a big fan of acoustic guitars. 12-string. Have you ever heard Roy Orbison play classical Spanish guitar? Phenomenal! My preference, though, leans more toward the good old classic hardcore acid rock - Hendrix, Zeppelin... But I'd rather decorate my house with Bob Plant himself than his guitar! <--that's not a silly face - that's me doing the Zoobie Drool!

Ok I can tell when I'm in over my head, and I think I'll let Ivan handle my side of the battle of the sexes :wink: I'll just chalk it up to another argument I've lost to a woman- trust me, it's not the first or last[b(]

I will say that it's been a rare occasion for me to find a woman who doesn't collect some sort of curio, pottporri, or somesuch piece of memorabilla. I guess we have our toys, and you have yours.

I can't say I've ever seen roy orbison *coughtooyoungcough* but Zepplin is classic, and pink floydd evokes a trance-like state for me.
I don't currently have an accoustic, but I've had them in the past. My fingers have bled on more than one occasion in the name of learning..
 
  • #38
Originally posted by Zantra
Ok I can tell when I'm in over my head, and I think I'll let Ivan handle my side of the battle of the sexes :wink: I'll just chalk it up to another argument I've lost to a woman- trust me, it's not the first or last[b(]

I will say that it's been a rare occasion for me to find a woman who doesn't collect some sort of curio, pottporri, or somesuch piece of memorabilla. I guess we have our toys, and you have yours.

I can't say I've ever seen roy orbison *coughtooyoungcough* but Zepplin is classic, and pink floydd evokes a trance-like state for me.
I don't currently have an accoustic, but I've had them in the past. My fingers have bled on more than one occasion in the name of learning..
OH! I forgot! I do have a bird's nest collection. But if they burned up or trashed, I'd find some other ones - or not... The older I get the more I hate the junk laying around. I think I'm becoming a minimalist. Most of MY toys are outside - garden tools, chain saws...
I was never a Roy Orbison fan, really. I ABSO-flippin'-LUTELY don't do country and that's what he did the most. But many years ago I saw him play classical Spanish guitar on an old Odd Couple episode on Nick At Night and just loved him. He was awesome. I do love Spanish guitar (and the Spaniards who play them are quite fine, too!):wink: Pink Floyd is also in my top five. With or without Waters... Kind of makes me wonder if Gilmore wasn't always the driving force behind them instead of Waters - as most people thought. Trance-like state? Hmmm... I used to go into those a lot back in the 70's...:wink: Not just with Floyd, tho...

*coughtooyoungcough*
*coughbitemecough*. :wink:
 
  • #39
So, ZERO! Why don't you post a recording of you playing your new love so we can hear what she sounds like!
 
  • #40
Originally posted by Tsunami
So, ZERO! Why don't you post a recording of you playing your new love so we can hear what she sounds like!
*COUGH COUGH*I have no clue how... *COUGH COUGH*

What were you saying?
 
  • #41
spanish guitaring is cool! i have 4 Gipsy Kings albums and some various cd's on flamenco.
 
  • #42
Originally posted by Zero
*COUGH COUGH*I have no clue how... *COUGH COUGH*
*coughnevermindcough*
What were you saying?
Nothing much... Just that I really enjoy Spanish guitar...
 
  • #43
...Well, I had a slight snag with the guitar...it was discontinued, out of stock, or something, so I wound up ordering this one instead:

http://www.ibanez.com/guitars/models/RG1570GN.jpg
 
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  • #44
I think she also looks beautiful, what a fantastic guitar, i can't wait until i can afford to buy a nice guitar like that without emptying my bank account.

Where abouts did you find that last guitar that you showed me with the slash's snakepit logo on?
 
  • #45
Originally posted by Andy
I think she also looks beautiful, what a fantastic guitar, i can't wait until i can afford to buy a nice guitar like that without emptying my bank account.

Where abouts did you find that last guitar that you showed me with the slash's snakepit logo on?
I hate to tell you that the Slash Epiphone is a discontinued model...I'll bet you could keep an eye out on ebay and find one for pretty cheap used.
 
  • #46
Oh bugger! I love the look of that guitar, will keep an eye on e-bay, but probably just settle for another one.
 
  • #47
Originally posted by Zero
What's that got, a 22-fret Wizard II neck? Probably plays just like the RG, since the neck is like 2 mm thicker. I just don't like the slender body as much...
Yup... here's mine:

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/51/519934.jpg

I like the dense, heavy, mahogany body. It gives it a good weight, and it's small enough to not be encumbering. Also, it has the most versatile tone of any guitar I've ever played. I swear I can get just about any tone in the world out of it.

- Warren
 
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  • #48
Originally posted by chroot


I like the dense, heavy, mahogany body. It gives it a good weight, and it's small enough to not be encumbering. Also, it has the most versatile tone of any guitar I've ever played. I swear I can get just about any tone in the world out of it.

- Warren
Well, I prefer the more 'open' sound of a basswood body, plus you can build a much more 'substantial' body for the same weight. I actually have passed up guitars before, for being too light or too thin, which is all subjective, of course.
As far as tone and versatility...I really only sound one way, so it doesn't matter to me. I went though a phase of wanting to sound as many different ways as I could, but now I pretty much go for one clean sound, one mid-range distortion, and one huge heavy metal distortion, and that's it.
 

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