Is Trimethylborazine Explosive or Toxic?

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The discussion centers on the potential hazards associated with trimethylborazine (CAS 1004-35-9). Participants express concerns about its safety, particularly regarding claims that it may be explosive. There is confusion about the information provided on a linked page, which inconsistently describes trimethylborazine and borazine. One participant emphasizes the importance of obtaining a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) from vendors, which should disclose any hazards and physical properties. While some sources suggest that trimethylborazine is not toxic or explosive, there are conflicting views about the explosiveness of borazine itself. The urgency of establishing safety is highlighted, as one participant seeks to assure their supervisor about the safety of their intended experiments with the compound.
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I'm looking for potential hazards of trimethylborazine (CAS 1004-35-9). I can't seem to find any, but some people claim that it is explosive or so. Any pointers ?

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Seems pretty http://www.chemicalland21.com/specialtychem/nh/1,3,5-TRIMETHYLBORAZINE.htm"
 
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Thanks. It's what I thought, but before I order it, I wanted to get an idea where I put my feet :smile:
 
Something seems to be a little bit off on the page cronxeh linked to - while the upper part states trimethylborazine, desciption below states just borazine.
 
Don't know what the particular law is where you are, Vanesch, but in North America the vendor must give you anhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_safety_data_sheet" on request, which will disclose any hazards, as well as physical properties.

According to Wiki, these documents are called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_and_Safety_Statements" . But I'm not sure if the vendors are required to supply them; I'd request one when you order it.
 
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Borek said:
Something seems to be a little bit off on the page cronxeh linked to - while the upper part states trimethylborazine, desciption below states just borazine.

Yes. In the mean time, I've found some publications where people talk about the advantages of using TMB because "at least it isn't a toxic or explosive liquid"...

On the other hand, I thought that borazine itself was pretty explosive...

In fact, the point is, I want to do something with it, but my boss warned me that he doesn't want "a crazy experiment which puts people at danger" and if I can't make my case about the safety even before ordering the stuff, he'll stop me right there. What I want to do, others have done similar things, but with much more dangerous stuff.
 
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