Is x² ≥ α(α-1) Given Certain Conditions for Non-negative Real Numbers?

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The discussion revolves around the inequality $$x^2 \ge \alpha(\alpha-1)$$ given certain conditions on the non-negative real number $$\alpha$$ and the inequality $$(x+1)^2 \ge \alpha(\alpha+1)$$ for all real numbers $$x$$. Participants explore the implications of these conditions and analyze various cases for different values of $$x$$.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that since the inequality holds for all $$x$$, it must also hold for specific values such as $$x = -1$$, leading to the conclusion that $$\alpha$$ must equal 0.
  • Others argue that the analysis should consider cases where $$x > -1$$ and explore the implications of $$\alpha$$ being greater than or less than $$x$$.
  • A participant proposes a substitution where $$t = x + 1$$ to analyze the inequality further, indicating that $$t$$ must be positive and greater than $$\alpha$$.
  • Another participant discusses the transformation of the inequality into a form that can be analyzed for positive $$x$$, suggesting that the conditions lead to a valid proof for the inequality.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the conditions set by $$\alpha$$ and the validity of the inequality for various ranges of $$x$$. There is no consensus on the overall validity of the inequality or the specific conditions under which it holds.

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Participants note the importance of the conditions on $$\alpha$$ and the values of $$x$$, indicating that the discussion may depend on specific assumptions about these variables. The implications of the inequalities are explored without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Given $$\alpha$$ is a non-negative real number and for every real number $$x$$, we have $$(x+1)^2\ge \alpha(\alpha+1)$$.

Is $$x^2\ge \alpha(\alpha-1)$$?
 
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it might be little fussy,
it is given that for every real number
$$(x+1)^2>=a(a+1)$$
so it can also be written as
$$x^2>=...$$
as $$a$$ is poitive
if $$x^2>=a^2+a$$
then,$$x^2>a^2-a$$ but i am not able to prove $$'=' $$ part
 
anemone said:
Given $$\alpha$$ is a non-negative real number and for every real number $$x$$, we have $$(x+1)^2\ge \alpha(\alpha+1)$$.

Is $$x^2\ge \alpha(\alpha-1)$$?
we need to check for
x has to be > -1 other wise

x^2 > (x+1)^2 and this condition shall always hold

let us check x> 0 (between 0 and -1 this need to be analysed )O

further if α < x we have the result

so we need to analyse a > x
 
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anemone said:
Given $$\alpha$$ is a non-negative real number and for every real number $$x$$, we have $$(x+1)^2\ge \alpha(\alpha+1)$$.

Is $$x^2\ge \alpha(\alpha-1)$$?

Hey anemone! ;)

Here's my attempt.

Since it's true for any $x$, it's also true for $x=-1$.
Therefore $$0 \ge \alpha(\alpha+1)$$.

Since $\alpha \ge 0$, it follows that $\alpha = 0$.

So the requested inequality $$x^2 \ge \alpha(\alpha-1)$$ simplifies to $$x^2 \ge 0$$, which is indeed true for any real number x. $\qquad \blacksquare$
 
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Hey anemone! ;)

Here's my attempt.

Since it's true for any $x$, it's also true for $x=-1$.
Therefore $$0 \ge \alpha(\alpha+1)$$.

Since $\alpha \ge 0$, it follows that $\alpha = 0$.

So the requested inequality $$x^2 \ge \alpha(\alpha-1)$$ simplifies to $$x^2 \ge 0$$, which is indeed true for any real number x. $\qquad \blacksquare$

I would not take a for alpha to be fixed then the ans becomes trivial (The question might have implied this)
then (x+1)^2 > a(a+1)

and then as a(a+1) >= a(a-1) ( a being positive)

(x+1)^2 >= a(a-1) and as it is true for any x so putitng x -1 as x we get the x.

Now with a which is not fixed

and for ( x+ 1) ^2 > a(a+1) I provide the solution
in next post
 
anemone said:
Given $$\alpha$$ is a non-negative real number and for every real number $$x$$, we have $$(x+1)^2\ge \alpha(\alpha+1)$$.

Is $$x^2\ge \alpha(\alpha-1)$$?

I have dropped the word every and provide the solution for postiive x ( I have already shown for -ve x to be true

we have (x+1)^2≥α(α+1)... (1)

Is x^2≥α(α−1)
we can chose x+1 to be t and have

t^2≥α(α+1)
now as t is positive so t > α

let t = α+h ( h >0)

so t^2 - α(α+1)
= (α+h)^2 - α(α+1)
= 2αh + h^2 - α >= 0 given (1)

we need to show that

(t-1)^2≥α(α-1)

(t-1)^2-α(α-1)
= (α+h-1)^2 - α(α-1)
= (α^2+h^2+1+ 2αh - 2α +2h) - α(α-1)
= h^2+1+ 2αh - α +2h
= ( h^2 + 2αh - α) + ( 1+ 2h)
> 0 as ( h^2 + 2αh - α) from (1)

hence proved that (t-1)^2≥α(α-1
 

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