Is Your Calculation of Simple Harmonic Motion Accurate?

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The discussion revolves around problems related to simple harmonic motion, specifically focusing on calculations of acceleration, velocity, and the interpretation of equations provided by a teacher. Participants are attempting to verify their results and clarify their understanding of the concepts involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants express uncertainty about their calculations and seek clarification on specific values and equations. Questions are raised regarding the correctness of acceleration and velocity calculations, as well as the interpretation of given equations. Some participants attempt to relate their findings from one problem to another, while others question the assumptions made in their calculations.

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There is an active exchange of ideas, with some participants providing guidance on differentiation and the relationships between position, velocity, and acceleration. However, multiple interpretations of the problems and calculations are being explored, and no explicit consensus has been reached.

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Participants mention constraints such as reliance on teacher-provided equations and potential misunderstandings regarding units of measurement. There is also mention of a single class context, which may limit the depth of understanding for some participants.

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Homework Statement
Determinate amplitude, velocity, aceleration, and ecuation of the principal ecuations (more information in the down image)
Relevant Equations
1/T w/2pi
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The first ecuation values i am 99% that is correct. But, in the second and three problem i don't know if my results are ok. The problem number 2 i comprobate with the teacher that te aceleration its correct, so, with this i calculate the velocity.

I use like example the second problem for try resolve the 3rd problem, but causes me much problems.
Any help, please?
 

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Krokodrile said:
The first ecuation values i am 99% that is correct.
Except D.

Krokodrile said:
The problem number 2 i comprobate with the teacher that te aceleration its correct, so, with this i calculate the velocity.
In a), why the +50?
In B), how did you calculate the velocity?
In C), despite your teacher's confirmation, I get a much smaller value.

Krokodrile said:
I use like example the second problem for try resolve the 3rd problem, but causes me much problems.
I don't understand how you got any of those. Please explain your reasoning.
 
haruspex said:
Except D.In a), why the +50?
In B), how did you calculate the velocity?
In C), despite your teacher's confirmation, I get a much smaller value.I don't understand how you got any of those. Please explain your reasoning.
a) Thats my mistake, i put hz in angle.
b) The velocity: the teacher just give us the ecuation 0.1cos (314.16t+angle), i the formula v= 2pi/w: 2pi/0.02
c) Maybe I am wrong with the value copy, but i sure that say us 914.16 with m/s units.For the 3rd problem I'm on my own with a single "class", i put the values in the ecuation of the best way i can.
For the circular frecuency i used the formula w/2pi.
For the aceleration i try to work the aceleration value with pi
 
b) have you had calculus? taking the derivative of the position x(t) will give you an equation for the velocity. The max amplitude should be apparent from that

c) m/s corresponds to a velocity, not acceleration. similar to (b) above, taking the derivative of v(t) will give you acceleration
 
onatirec said:
b) have you had calculus? taking the derivative of the position x(t) will give you an equation for the velocity. The max amplitude should be apparent from that

c) m/s corresponds to a velocity, not acceleration. similar to (b) above, taking the derivative of v(t) will give you acceleration
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I tried make it better
 

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Krokodrile said:
b) The velocity: the teacher just give us the ecuation 0.1cos (314.16t+angle), i the formula v= 2pi/w: 2pi/0.02
##100\pi## r/s is the angular velocity, which is constant. The question is asking for the maximum linear velocity, i.e. the maximum rate of change of x.
See @onatirec's advice above.
Krokodrile said:
c) Maybe I am wrong with the value copy, but i sure that say us 914.16 with m/s units.
The units are wrong for an acceleration, and if we correct the units to ##m/s^2## the number is wildly wrong. I want to know how you calculated it.
It sounds like someone gave you the answer but you wrote it down wrongly, and don't know how to find it for yourself. Is that right?
Krokodrile said:
For the circular frecuency i used the formula w/2pi.
But where does the value of 0.02 r/s for w come from?
Krokodrile said:
For the aceleration i try to work the aceleration value with pi

Here's how this stuff works:
##x(t)=A\sin(\omega t+\phi)##
Differentiate to find the velocity:
##v(t)=\frac{dx}{dt}=A\omega\cos(\omega t+\phi)##
Differentiate again to find the acceleration :
##a(t)=\frac{dv}{dt}=-A\omega^2\sin(\omega t+\phi)##

Do you understand those differentiation steps?
 

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