Isentropic Nozzle Behavior Explanation

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In the discussion about isentropic nozzle behavior, the focus is on understanding why the exiting pressure remains constant while the temperature decreases in an isentropic process. It is clarified that if the nozzle's outlet is open to the atmosphere or another large region with a fixed pressure, this will dictate the exit pressure. The participants emphasize that the pressure does not change abruptly and that the problem likely assumes a specific downstream pressure condition. The questioner seeks clarity on whether both pressure and temperature could change simultaneously, but the consensus is that in an isentropic process, the pressure is typically fixed. Overall, the conversation highlights the relationship between pressure, temperature, and the nature of isentropic flow in nozzles.
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Hello. I was working on a sample problem on my thermodynamics book about isentropic nozzles. Pressures, velocities, and temperatures of steam entering to a non isentropic nozzle and exiting it are known. The question asks me to find the velocity of the steam exiting, if the nozzle were isentropic.

I find the amount of irreversibilities using entropy data and then find the specific entropy of the exiting steam. Here is my question: The solution says the exiting pressure remains the same and the temperature decreases if the nozzle were isentropic. What is the reason for that? Couldn't the pressure change and temperature remain the same?

I hope you understand my question and thank you very much for your attention!
 
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kalamar20 said:
Hello. I was working on a sample problem on my thermodynamics book about isentropic nozzles. Pressures, velocities, and temperatures of steam entering to a non isentropic nozzle and exiting it are known. The question asks me to find the velocity of the steam exiting, if the nozzle were isentropic.

I find the amount of irreversibilities using entropy data and then find the specific entropy of the exiting steam. Here is my question: The solution says the exiting pressure remains the same and the temperature decreases if the nozzle were isentropic. What is the reason for that? Couldn't the pressure change and temperature remain the same?

I hope you understand my question and thank you very much for your attention!
Maybe the pressure is fixed at the downstream end at some specific value.
 
Chestermiller said:
Maybe the pressure is fixed at the downstream end at some specific value.

How can the pressure be fixed? Also, isn't it necessary to state that in the problem?
 
kalamar20 said:
How can the pressure be fixed? Also, isn't it necessary to state that in the problem?
I haven't seen the statement of the problem, so I don't know. But, if the outlet of the nozzle is into the atmosphere (or into some other large region of prescribed pressure) that's going to determine the pressure at the exit of the nozzle. The pressure at the exit of the nozzle does not change discontinuously.
 
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Chestermiller said:
I haven't seen the statement of the problem, so I don't know. But, if the outlet of the nozzle is into the atmosphere (or into some other large region of prescribed pressure) that's going to determine the pressure at the exit of the nozzle. The pressure at the exit of the nozzle does not change discontinuously.

OK, thank you very much for your help.
 

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