It looks cooked, but comes with a warning

[tribdog]

I'm eating my favorite vice right now. ceviche, raw shrimp lime juice, onion, cucumber tomato and something spicy. Tastes really good, but they serve it with a warning about eating raw seafood. How dangerous is it really? is the reward worth the risk for most people. how about for me?

 

[Evo]

I'm eating my favorite vice right now. ceviche, raw shrimp lime juice, onion, cucumber tomato and something spicy. Tastes really good, but they serve it with a warning about eating raw seafood. How dangerous is it really? is the reward worth the risk for most people. how about for me?

No more dangerous than eating sushi. Raw chicken is more of a danger, probably why they don't make chicken sushi?

 

[Ba]

For you the it must be after all you'ld probally burn it up if you tried.
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/risk/seafood.htm
There it is, the various problems.

 

[Moonbear]

And to think I just wasted my time cooking shrimp when I could have eaten it raw. If it was really dangerous, they wouldn't be allowed to serve it as food. Just make sure you bought it from a place you trust to be clean and to handle raw food properly. I love sushi, though never noticed a warning on it...hmm...in today's litigious society, I'm surprised there isn't one. Maybe it is there and I just eat it too quickly to pay attention to what's written on the packaging? Or else it's probably at the bottom of the menus somewhere and I just ignore it.

They made ceviche the other day on the Today Show. Looked really yummy, but they made it with crab meat, and it was cooked, because for whatever reason, that type of crab has to be cooked before it's even allowed to go to market. Makes you wonder where they're catching the crabs?

Basically, if you can smell the fishy smell of seafood, I wouldn't eat it raw, it's probably a bit old. If it doesn't have a smell, it's nice and fresh.

 

[tribdog]

lol, trust. I've never used that word in connection with mexican food. or mexicans for that matter. my motto is "don't trust anyone who needs to take a nap during lunch."If I've offended anyone with that comment please reply, but tell me what time it is you are replying. I'll bet its no where between 12:00 and 3:00. lol. adios.

 

[tribdog]

okay, I just went back to the Mexican restaurant to get more ceviche. they also had "shrimp cocktail" $12 for one person $20 for two people. being the penny pincher I am I ordered the two people size, and after being painfully reminded that I am only one person so I can't have the two people size, I finally convinced them that I had a second person waiting for me to bring them their half. I didn't open it until I got home and there is all sorts of weird stuff inside. oysters on the half shell (which I've never had before) and lots of octopus (which reminds me of gristle with suckers) this stuff definitely smells fishy, but I'm living dangerously.
ps two quick questions first. how can you tell the difference between oysters and loogies? how are you supposed to eat them?

 

[juvenal]

lol, trust. I've never used that word in connection with mexican food. or mexicans for that matter. my motto is "don't trust anyone who needs to take a nap during lunch."If I've offended anyone with that comment please reply, but tell me what time it is you are replying. I'll bet its no where between 12:00 and 3:00. lol. adios.

Actually - I think people would be more productive if they could take an afternoon siesta. Maybe not for 3 hours, but 1/2 to 1 hour would be nice. I've snuck some afternoon ZZZ's by going to a bathroom stall back in my suited days.

Didn't realize your "humor" masked such raging bigotry, btw.

 

[tribdog]

Actually - I think people would be more productive if they could take an afternoon siesta. Maybe not for 3 hours, but 1/2 to 1 hour would be nice. I've snuck some afternoon ZZZ's by going to a bathroom stall back in my suited days.

Didn't realize your "humor" masked such raging bigotry, btw.

lol, I'm 9/10ths spanish.

 

[Math Is Hard]

careful with those oysters! my step-dad actually got cholera from some raw oysters once!

 

[tribdog]

careful with those oysters! my step-dad actually got cholera from some raw oysters once!

that's why I mikeywaved them

 

[Evo]

I've snuck some afternoon ZZZ's by going to a bathroom stall back in my suited days.

You slept on a toilet?

 

[tribdog]

lol, crazy mexicans. JUST KIDDING

 

[Norman]

Here is what you can get from raw seafood:

Symptoms of Vibrio parahaemolyticus: When ingested, V. parahaemolyticus causes watery diarrhea often with abdominal cramping, nausea, vomiting fever and chills. Usually these symptoms occur within 24 hours of ingestion. Illness is usually self-limited and lasts 3 days. Severe disease is rare and occurs more commonly in persons with weakened immune systems. V. parahaemolyticus can also cause an infection of the skin when an open wound is exposed to warm seawater.

I bet you would know if you got sick from raw seafood!

 

[tribdog]

watery diarrhea? is there any other kind?
that cracked me up, but now that I've asked it I'm serious. is there any other kind?

 

[Norman]

I am unsure. But it seems to suggest there might be...

 

[tribdog]

I am unsure. But it seems to suggest there might be...

maybe this should be moved to brain teasers.

 

[K.J.Healey]

watery diarrhea? is there any other kind?

Maybe powdery??

But anyway, I've had sushi 3 times in the past 5 days. Today for lunch I went to a decent place that's all-you-can-eat (though we've scoped it out, everything is good, all made fresh). I love salmon, eel, yellowtail, tuna, and the rest. All soo good.

Does anyone know about possible mercury poisioning though? I heard that's an issue due to the high mercury content.

 

[Norman]

You have to worry about mercury usually from fish that are high on the food chain- salmon, shark, swordfish are the usual ones I have heard about but someone else might know a little more.

 

[Moonbear]

Tuna too, especially the fancy albacore stuff. Mostly need to be careful feeding it to children or pregnant women. Though, it depends on the source. Don't eat fish from the Great Lakes (at least I wouldn't if I knew that's where it came from). But, I like seafood, so I'm not giving it up anyway.

 

[tribdog]

lets get back to the diarrhea, we have watery, powdery and I'm going to suggest "stringy?" what else?

 

[juvenal]

lol, I'm 9/10ths spanish.

Gotcha, dude.

 

[juvenal]

You slept on a toilet?

Yeah. There was an article in the WSJ about this a few months back. Apparently I'm not the only one.

 

[tribdog]

Gotcha, dude.

I'm also 4/5ths liar

 

[Evo]

lets get back to the diarrhea, we have watery, powdery and I'm going to suggest "stringy?" what else?

Soft stool. Anywhere from mushy to gooey to creamy. No stringy or powdery. Color can be interesting. Dysentery green is nice.

 

[hitssquad]

Raw like sushi

No more dangerous than eating sushi.

http://www.clevelandclinicmeded.com/diseasemanagement/infectiousdisease/foodborne/foodborne.htm

• Food-borne disease (FD) is a pervasive problem caused by consumption of contaminated food and drink. An estimated 76 million cases occur annually, resulting in 300,000 hospitalizations and 5,000 deaths. Far fewer cases are documented because of underreporting.

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/sea-ill.html

• Bacterial Pathogens associated with raw and processed seafood
  
  • Salmonella spp.
  • Clostridium botulinum
  • Listeria monocytogenes
  • Vibrio cholerae O1
  • Vibrio cholerae non-Ol
  • Vibrio parahaemolyticus and other vibrios
  • Vibrio vulnificus
• Parasites that are sometimes found in raw seafood
  
  • Anisakis sp. and related worms
  • Diphyllobothrium spp.
  • Nanophyetus spp.
  • Eustrongylides sp.
  • Acanthamoeba and other free-living amoebae
  • Ascaris lumbricoides and Trichuris trichiura
• Viruses that sometimes contaminate raw seafood
  
  • Hepatitis A virus
  • Hepatitis E virus
  • Rotavirus
  • Norwalk virus group
  • Other viral agents
• Natural Toxins that are sometimes found in seafood
  
  • Ciguatera poisoning
  • Shellfish toxins (PSP, DSP, NSP, ASP)
  • Scombroid
  • Tetrodotoxin (Pufferfish)

 

[tribdog]

crunchy would be horrible wouldn't it?
or itchy, ohh what about 'angry'
musical might be funny

 

[tribdog]

eeww, wormy

 

[Moonbear]

Don't worry tribdog, we'll take you to the vet and get you dewormed.

 

[Evo]

You can sometimes tell if a dog has worms if it drags it's butt across the grass, or carpet. The worms make him itch and that's a good way to scratch it. trib, have you had any recent urges to drag your butt across the floor?

 

[tribdog]

You can sometimes tell if a dog has worms if it drags it's butt across the grass, or carpet. The worms make him itch and that's a good way to scratch it. trib, have you had any recent urges to drag your butt across the floor?

not any more than usual
lol jk
I'm a bachelor...have you seen my carpet?

 

[Moonbear]

You can sometimes tell if a dog has worms if it drags it's butt across the grass, or carpet. The worms make him itch and that's a good way to scratch it. trib, have you had any recent urges to drag your butt across the floor?

Only since he started chewing nicotine gum.

 

[tribdog]

did I mention how good this gum tastes?

 

[Moonbear]

Yeah, I think you mentioned that. So when someone bans cigarettes, we'll have gum fiends running around next, right?

 

[tribdog]

I really should have gotten the patch.
I tried duct taping pieces of gum to my arm, but that doesn't seem to work

 

[Norman]

Tuna too, especially the fancy albacore stuff. Mostly need to be careful feeding it to children or pregnant women. Though, it depends on the source. Don't eat fish from the Great Lakes (at least I wouldn't if I knew that's where it came from). But, I like seafood, so I'm not giving it up anyway.

I grew up eating fish from the Great Lakes (I am from Green Bay originally) and in general it is ok. You do need to watch out if it becomes a staple of your diet though, but it wouldn't be any worse then eating the same amount of shark or salmon. As has already been said, children and women of child rearing age need to worry the most.

 

[tribdog]

autism has been linked to mercury poisoning. that's scary.
edit:scary, definitely scary, definitely, definitely scary, scary, yeah

 

[Moonbear]

Don't worry tribdog, you probably don't get much fresh fish in the middle of the desert.

 

[tribdog]

I'm eating raw seafood, remember. that's why I started this thread. you warned me to make sure it is fresh, now you are telling me I don't get fresh fish here? I said I was going to bed are you trying to make sure I have nightmares?

 

[Moonbear]

Nah, if I wanted to give you nightmares, perhaps I'd try repeating: tick tock tick tock tick tock

(Or is that for giving nightmares to pirates? Yaaarrrrhhhh!)

 

[Tsu]

did I mention how good this gum tastes?

Try the orange flavor. It's better than the mint. The only way a patch will help is if you can roll it up and smoke it.

 

[tribdog]

how do I get the gum to quit making me sick to my stomach?

 

[Tsu]

I grew up eating fish from the Great Lakes (I am from Green Bay originally) and in general it is ok. You do need to watch out if it becomes a staple of your diet though, but it wouldn't be any worse then eating the same amount of shark or salmon. As has already been said, children and women of child rearing age need to worry the most.

Me, too! Smoked chubs and an Old Milwaukee during a Packer game - YUMMMM!

Hey, Norman! Is Krolls still there?

 

[Tsu]

how do I get the gum to quit making me sick to my stomach?

Chew only a half piece at a time and work up to a whole one.

Does it give you the hiccups? It frequently gives me BAD hiccups and everyone at work laughs at me.

 

[tribdog]

if by hiccups you mean vomitting all over the Chevron parking lot when I'm getting gas in the morning then yeah. I get the hiccups bad.

 

[Moonbear]

Chew only a half piece at a time and work up to a whole one.

Isn't the point to work your way down to less gum, not up to more? If a half of a piece works, do you really need to work back up to a whole piece? I've watched people quit cold turkey, and I swear, it didn't seem as bad as this gum stuff. They were miserable for about a week, and had cravings a lot longer, but none of this nausea, vomiting, hiccups stuff. Are you sure these gum manufacturers want you to break the habit? Afterall, they won't make any more money once you've broken your addiction to the gum.

 

[hitssquad]

I'm eating raw seafood [...] you warned me to make sure it is fresh

Freezing may kill the worms, and so frozen seafood may be preferable to fresh.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed&term=fish+frozen+worms

 

[Mk]

I don't really like to eat frozen fish. When I tried it, it was kinda hard.

 

[Norman]

Me, too! Smoked chubs and an Old Milwaukee during a Packer game - YUMMMM!

Hey, Norman! Is Krolls still there?

I believe it still is. I am in Milwaukee now, and only get home everyonce in a while, but I cannot imagine Krolls ever going away. Now I am thinking about a krolls burger. Maybe I will go up to GB this weekend...

 

[Moonbear]

What's Krolls?

 

[Norman]

It is a restaurant with "famous" burgers. Famous in the sense that anyone from the area has been there. It is one of the spots where all the locals go.