Iterated integrals converted to polar

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The problem involves evaluating a double integral with bounds that need to be converted from Cartesian to polar coordinates. The integral is defined over a region described by the equations involving x and y, specifically focusing on the transformation of the bounds for integration.

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of Cartesian bounds to polar coordinates, with some expressing confusion about the process. There are attempts to visualize the region of integration, with references to a half-circle and its center. Questions arise about how to accurately determine the new bounds in polar coordinates.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights about the geometric interpretation of the region. Some guidance has been offered regarding the polar equation of the circle, but there is no explicit consensus on the final bounds for integration.

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There is mention of the importance of sketching the region for understanding the bounds, and some participants express uncertainty about the implications of the center of the circle being at a different location than expected.

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Homework Statement
∫[itex]^{4}_{0}[/itex] ∫[itex]^{√(4y-y^{2})}_{0}[/itex] (x2) dx dy


The attempt at a solution

I'm confused on how to convert the bounds into polar coordinates.

I believe x2 just becomes r2cos2θ

0≤x≤√(4y-y2)
0≤y≤4

but i don't know how to convert the bounds
 
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mikky05v said:
Homework Statement
∫[itex]^{4}_{0}[/itex] ∫[itex]^{√(4y-y^{2})}_{0}[/itex] (x2) dx dy


The attempt at a solution

I'm confused on how to convert the bounds into polar coordinates.

I believe x2 just becomes r2cos2θ

0≤x≤√(4y-y2)
0≤y≤4

but i don't know how to convert the bounds
Have you drawn a sketch of the region over which integration is taking place? That's very important when you're changing from one coordinate system to another.
 
ya I came up with a half circle in the 1st quadrant that's center is on 2 and it's radius is 2 but i can't figure out how to use that to find my bounds. If the center was on 0 I would be a lot more comfortable
 
I plugged in the values of x and y for polar coordinates and came up with r=4sinθ so would my r bounds simply go from 0→4sinθ?
 
mikky05v said:
ya I came up with a half circle in the 1st quadrant that's center is on 2 and it's radius is 2 but i can't figure out how to use that to find my bounds. If the center was on 0 I would be a lot more comfortable
Your description isn't very clear, but I think you understand what the region looks like.

The equation of your circle is x2 + y2 - 4y = 0, where x ≥ 0 (for the right half).

Converting to polar form, we get r2 - 4rsin(θ) = 0, or r(r - 4sin(θ)) = 0. Since there is a value of θ that is paired with r = 0, we don't lose any solutions by dividing by r.

The polar equation of your circle is r = 4sin(θ).
 

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