Job Prospects Teaching Physics in High School

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the job prospects and considerations for teaching high school physics, particularly in relation to qualifications, classroom dynamics, and balancing graduate studies with teaching responsibilities. Participants explore various aspects of entering the teaching profession, including the desirability of teaching AP classes and the implications of holding a master's degree.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the job market for teaching AP physics classes and whether a BS in Physics is sufficient for securing such positions.
  • Concerns are raised regarding whether holding a master's degree might hinder hiring due to higher salary requirements, with some participants expressing skepticism about this notion.
  • Experiences in physics classrooms are shared, highlighting the rewarding nature of teaching and the importance of mentoring students.
  • Participants discuss the dynamics of respect and student motivation in physics versus algebra classes, suggesting that physics students may be more motivated due to their career aspirations.
  • Questions arise about the feasibility of pursuing graduate studies while teaching full-time, with some participants sharing personal experiences that indicate it can be challenging but not impossible.
  • One participant mentions leaning towards a MA in Teaching program, suggesting it could prepare them for both teaching and potential graduate studies in physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the impact of a master's degree on hiring prospects, as opinions vary. Additionally, while some participants agree on the rewarding aspects of teaching, others express differing views on the challenges of balancing teaching with graduate studies.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that requirements and experiences can vary significantly by state and school district, indicating that local contexts play a crucial role in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a career in teaching high school physics, current educators seeking insights into classroom dynamics, and those exploring graduate education options in relation to teaching.

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So I'm going to be eligible to teach high school students sooner rather than later, and I have a few questions on how to round out my undergrad to go into the job market with the best chances of getting to teach the classes I want. Bear in mind I'm not limited to one city or state so I already have an advantage in that I'm willing to move around and many states will take my certification.

Here's the list:
1. What are the prospects for the kind of classes I'll be teaching since my BS will be in Physics and I want to teach the AP classes wherever I can?
2. Will a MS in my field REALLY hinder my chances to be hired by a high school because of how they'll have to pay me more money? It seems like this is more BS than I've been led to believe.
3. If you have experience, what has your physics classroom been like, and what has helped you most as a teacher?
4. Is the fine line between respect and spite easier to walk in a physics classroom as opposed to an algebra 1 class?
5. Is it realistic to want to go to grad school and teach full time at the same time?
6. Do you like teaching, and why?

Thanks for any insight.
 
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SquareRootOfTwo said:
So I'm going to be eligible to teach high school students sooner rather than later, and I have a few questions on how to round out my undergrad to go into the job market with the best chances of getting to teach the classes I want. Bear in mind I'm not limited to one city or state so I already have an advantage in that I'm willing to move around and many states will take my certification.

Here's the list:
1. What are the prospects for the kind of classes I'll be teaching since my BS will be in Physics and I want to teach the AP classes wherever I can?
2. Will a MS in my field REALLY hinder my chances to be hired by a high school because of how they'll have to pay me more money? It seems like this is more BS than I've been led to believe.
3. If you have experience, what has your physics classroom been like, and what has helped you most as a teacher?
4. Is the fine line between respect and spite easier to walk in a physics classroom as opposed to an algebra 1 class?
5. Is it realistic to want to go to grad school and teach full time at the same time?
6. Do you like teaching, and why?

Thanks for any insight.
There is no pat answer. It varies greatly from state to state and even school district to district,

You need to decided on places you wish to work and first see what they're requiremnents are.
 
SquareRootOfTwo said:
So I'm going to be eligible to teach high school students sooner rather than later, and I have a few questions on how to round out my undergrad to go into the job market with the best chances of getting to teach the classes I want. Bear in mind I'm not limited to one city or state so I already have an advantage in that I'm willing to move around and many states will take my certification.

Here's the list:
1. What are the prospects for the kind of classes I'll be teaching since my BS will be in Physics and I want to teach the AP classes wherever I can?
2. Will a MS in my field REALLY hinder my chances to be hired by a high school because of how they'll have to pay me more money? It seems like this is more BS than I've been led to believe.
3. If you have experience, what has your physics classroom been like, and what has helped you most as a teacher?
4. Is the fine line between respect and spite easier to walk in a physics classroom as opposed to an algebra 1 class?
5. Is it realistic to want to go to grad school and teach full time at the same time?
6. Do you like teaching, and why?

Thanks for any insight.
My high school chemistry teacher had an MS in Chemistry, and one physics teacher has an MS then received a PhD. However, that was about 40 years ago. More recently, a local high school hired a retired scientist (PhD) to teach chemistry. He had to have a teaching certificate.

What is question 4 about?!

It would be difficult to go to grad school and teach full time. During graduated school, I taught undergrad classes in the same department. The teaching load was not full time, because I did research as well as teach.

Teaching is rewarding. As a professional, I like to mentor younger folk coming into the industry, because I had to learn a lot on the job, and I'd like to transmit some of that experience and knowledge to younger folk, and I'd like to see them succeed.
 
SquareRootOfTwo said:
4. Is the fine line between respect and spite easier to walk in a physics classroom as opposed to an algebra 1 class?

Most of the students are forced to enroll in and "pass" Algebra 1 and do not like the course, so the teacher has a frustrating job trying to teach Algebra 1, regardless of how good he is as teacher and how well he knows it. Most of high school physics students have at least the broad goal of a scientific or technology career and are very motivated, so the Physics teacher should have less frustration in the effort to teach this.
 
Thanks guys. Seems my hunches were good. We'll see how the next couple semesters plays out. My school has a MA in Teaching program I'm leaning towards doing since it's only a year and I'll be prepped for both it and Physics grad school if I so choose. No reason not to get it I figure.

Agree? Disagree?
 

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