Kepler's Third Law: Eliptical Orbits & Planet Masses

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Kepler's third law is often taught with the assumption of circular orbits for simplicity, although orbits are actually elliptical. The traditional school equation does not include the mass of the planets, while a more accurate version incorporates mass, aligning with Newton's universal gravity. The discussion highlights the confusion around which equation to use for solving problems related to orbital motion. The correct formula for calculations is 4π²r³/GM, where r is the radius of the orbit and M is the mass of the central object. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for accurately solving orbital motion problems.
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I don't know but in school I learned it in a different way. I mean in school the Kepler's third law was thought as if all the orbits were circular. But according to the definition its all elleptical, and in the school equation we won't add the planets mass, but here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler's_third_law

The planet mass is also added.
So I am not sure what kind of equation I should use to solve sums?

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Two points:
(a) A circle is special kind of ellipse; I'm sure you instructor approximated the orbits as circular just to keep the calculations easier.
(b) The masses are added in turning Kepler's 3rd law from a statement of proportionality to an equality; it goes beyond Kepler's original law by adding Newton's model of universal gravity.​

I don't know what you mean by "solve sums".
 
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Doc Al said:
Two points:
(a) A circle is special kind of ellipse; I'm sure you instructor approximated the orbits as circular just to keep the calculations easier.
(b) The masses are added in turning Kepler's 3rd law from a statement of proportionality to an equality; it goes beyond Kepler's original law by adding Newton's model of universal gravity.​

I don't know what you mean by "solve sums".

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Thanks a lot for replying. We finished orbital motion just 3 days ago and he gave us a work sheet with problems to solve. I think your correct, he approximated the orbits as circular to keep thinngs simple. The equation that I am using is
4pi^2r^3/GM

r- radius of orbit
M - mass of the center object

Thanks
 
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