Kernel and image of linear transformation

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The discussion revolves around finding the kernel and image of linear transformations, specifically focusing on transformations from polynomial spaces and matrices. The original poster presents a transformation from polynomials of degree 2 to R² and later discusses transformations in R³ and matrix spaces.

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  • Participants explore the basis for the kernel and image of the given transformations, questioning the validity of proposed bases and the dimensionality of the kernel and image. There is uncertainty about the nature of elements in the kernel and image, particularly regarding their representation as polynomials or matrices.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's ideas, correcting misunderstandings about the nature of the transformations and the elements involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the requirements for the basis elements, particularly emphasizing that they must belong to the appropriate spaces.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions and properties of the transformations, as well as the dimensionality relationships expected between the kernel, image, and the original space. Participants also mention issues with the formatting of their mathematical expressions.

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Find a basis for Ker T and a basis for I am T

a) T: P_{2} -> R^2 \ T(a+bx+cx^2) = (a,b)

for Ker T , both a and b must be zero, but c can be anything
so the basis is x^2

for hte image we have to find the find v in P2 st T(v) = (a,b) \in P^2
the c can be anything, right?
cant our basis be (1,0) or (0,1) ??
But wshould hte dimensions of the kernel and image add up to the dimension of the preimage?

Latex is acting funny...
 
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for Ker T , both a and b must be zero, but c can be anything
so the basis is (0,0,1)
I think you have the right idea, but there's a problem: (0, 0, 1) isn't a polynomial! It's not an element of P_{2}!


for hte image we have to find the find v in P2 st T(v) = (a,b) \in P^2
the c can be anything, right?
cant our basis be (1,1,0) or (1,0,1) or (1,0,0) ??
I'm not really sure at all what you're doing here.

But there is one thing that's clearly wrong: T is a map from P_{2} to R². Therefore, the image of T is a subset of R². So, a basis of it must consist of elements of R².
 
Hurkyl said:
I think you have the right idea, but there's a problem: (0, 0, 1) isn't a polynomial! It's not an element of P_{2}!

you're right i corrected it, it should be x^2, yes?


Hurkyl said:
I'm not really sure at all what you're doing here.

But there is one thing that's clearly wrong: T is a map from P_{2} to R². Therefore, the image of T is a subset of R². So, a basis of it must consist of elements of R².

also corrected should be (1,0), (0,1)
 
a couple of more questions

b) T:R3->R3, T(x,y,z) = (x+y,x+y,0)

basis for ker T-> (1,-1,0)

basis for the imT = (1,1,0),(0,0,1)

c)
[tex]T: M_{22} \rightarrow M_{22[/tex]
[tex]T \left[\begin{array}{cc} a&b \\ c&d \end{array}\right] = \left[\begin{array}{cc} a+b&b+c \\ c+d&d +a\end{array}\right][/tex]
for the ker T: a =-b and b = -c, c= -d, a = -d
basis [tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 1&-1 \\ 0&0 \end{array}\right][/tex]
[tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 0&0 \\ 1&-1 \end{array}\right][/tex]

im T basis includes
[tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 1&0 \\ 0&1 \end{array}\right][/tex]
[tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 0&1 \\ 1&0 \end{array}\right][/tex]
[tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 1&1 \\ 0&0 \end{array}\right][/tex]
[tex]\left[\begin{array}{cc} 0&0 \\ 1&1 \end{array}\right][/tex]
 
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