Kinematics: Rectilinear Motion (calculus)

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving rectilinear motion, specifically focusing on the acceleration and velocity of a point Q over two time intervals. The original poster presents a problem from a dynamics textbook, detailing the motion of Q as it passes through the origin and experiences different accelerations over specified time periods.

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  • Participants discuss the need to analyze the motion in two segments, questioning how to relate the initial conditions and constants across the time intervals. There are attempts to derive expressions for displacement and velocity using calculus, particularly for the second interval where acceleration varies with time.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and reasoning. Some have provided guidance on integrating the acceleration to find velocity and position, while others are questioning the correctness of their equations and the implications of signs in their calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the resolution of the problem, as participants explore different interpretations and approaches.

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The problem involves specific conditions such as the initial position and the final position after a set time, which are critical for determining the velocity at the start. Participants note the complexity introduced by the changing acceleration and the potential for multiple interpretations of the equations involved.

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Hello, first post here. I've used these forums as reference for quite some time, just never actually made an account until now.

I'm working through the textbook for my upcoming Intro to Dynamics class and I am having trouble figuring out this problem. It seems like it should be pretty straightforward, but perhaps not.

Homework Statement


(from An Introduction to Dynamics, 4th ed. by Mcgill/King)
1.41) A point Q in rectilinear motion passes through the origin at t = 0, and from then until 5 seconds have passed, the acceleration of Q is 6 ft/s^2 to the right. Beginning at t = 5 seconds, the acceleration of Q is 12t ft/s^2 to the left. If after 2 more seconds point Q is 13 feet to the right of the origin, what was the velocity of Q at t = 0?

Homework Equations


[tex] v = \frac{ds}{dt}[/tex][tex] a = \frac{dv}{dt} [/tex]For constant acceleration:[tex] v = v_o + at [/tex][tex] s = s_o + v_ot + \frac{1}{2}at^2 [/tex][tex] v^2 = v_o^2 + 2a(s - s_o) [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


A few notes:
  • I'll choose x to be positive in the right direction.
  • There are two time intervals. 0 to 5s (subscript 1), and t > 5s (subscript 2).
Here's what the problem gives us:
a1 = 6 ft/s2
a2 = -12t ft/s2
s(7) = 13 ft

So I think the main idea is to use the initial condition and a2 to figure out either the position or velocity at t = 5s. From there, any of the constant acceleration formulas will suffice to find the initial velocity.

a2 = -12t
v2 = -6t2 + c1
s2 = -2t3 + c1t + c2

Plugging the initial condition still leaves me with 2 constants. I know that at t = 5s, a1 = a2, v1 = v2, s1 = s2, but I'm not sure how to relate the first time interval to the second.

4. The Answer
The back of the book says: 2 ft/s (to the right)

Any help/tips would be appreciated, thanks!
 
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Let a_n be the acceleration during the nth part and t_n be the duration that a_n lasted.

[tex]s_2(t_2) = v_{20} t_2 + x_{20} + \frac{1}{2} a_2 t_2^2[/tex]
[tex]v_{20} = v_1(t_1) = v_{10} + a_1 t_1[/tex]
[tex]x_{20} = x_1(t_1) = v_{10} t_1 + \frac{1}{2} a_1 t_1^2[/tex]

Plugging in the last two into the first:

[tex]s_2(t_2) = (v_{10} + a_1 t_1) t_2 + v_{10} t_1 + \frac{1}{2} a_1 t_1^2 + \frac{1}{2} a_2 t_2^2[/tex]
[tex]v_{10}=\frac{s_2(t_2) - \frac{1}{2}(a_1 t_1^2 + a_2 t_2^2+2 a_1 t_1 t_2)}{t_2+t_1}[/tex]
 
You'll need to incorporate the given final position of +13 ft at t=7 seconds into the mix. In order to do that you have to find an expression for the distance for t > 5 seconds. That's going to involve a bit of calculus, particularly since it the acceleration depends upon time for t > 5.

The first leg of the journey is simple enough since the acceleration is constant. You can use the usual constant acceleration formulae to determine the displacement and velocity at time t = 5, keeping the initial velocity as a variable of course.

For the second leg, two integrations will be required. The first to find an expression for the change in velocity for this period, and the second to combine this with the velocity left over from the first leg to find the change in distance from the t = 5 epoch.
 
I didn't see the t for the second acceleration. In that case, everything is the same, save the equation for s_2(t) (which will have a few t_2s and 1/2 or 1/3 constants floating around in it now from integration). But I'm sure you can use the model I've put in place to dispense of your prior confusion.
 
Hey, thanks for the advice guys. I am still not quite getting it, here is my work:
[tex]s_2(t_2) = v_{20} t_2 + x_{20} + \frac{1}{6} a_2 t_2^3[/tex][tex]v_{20} = v_1(t_1) = v_{10} + a_1 t_1[/tex][tex]x_{20} = x_1(t_1) = v_{10} t_1 + \frac{1}{2} a_1 t_1^2[/tex]
Plugging in the last two into the first:
[tex]s_2(t_2) = (v_{10} + a_1 t_1) t_2 + v_{10} t_1 + \frac{1}{2} a_1 t_1^2 + \frac{1}{6} a_2 t_2^3[/tex][tex]13 = (v_{10} + (6)(5))(2) + 5v_{10} + \frac{1}{2}(6)(5^2) + \frac{1}{6}(-12)(2^3)[/tex][tex]13 = 2v_{10} + 60 + 5v_{10} + 75 + (-16)[/tex][tex]-106 = 7v_{10}[/tex][tex]v_{10} = -15.14[/tex]

The correct answer, according to the back of the book is 2 ft/s. This may be purely coincidental, but I noticed this:

If I use this equation, it works out (notice the - a1t1 instead of + a1t1):
[tex]s_2(t_2) = (v_{10} - a_1 t_1) t_2 + v_{10} t_1 + \frac{1}{2} a_1 t_1^2 + \frac{1}{6} a_2 t_2^3[/tex][tex]13 = 2v_{10} - 60 + 5v_{10} + 75 + (-16)[/tex][tex]14 = 7v_{10}[/tex][tex]v_{10} = 2[/tex]
When plugging the numbers into this equation you get v10 = 2 ft/s.

Does the book have a typo? Or is second equation correct? If it is, I do not understand where the negative sign comes from. Or, am I making another error somewhere else?
 
It doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not the best. Personally, I believe myself over a textbook any day.

One time on a test with simple convolution, I did it by hand as you're supposed to do. Then, I plugged in the integral into my calculator [the question was asking for the convolution evaluated at a certain argument] and got another answer. I boldly kept mine, receiving full credit, disobeying the electric gods.
 

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