Kinetic Energy/Circular Motion and figuring out point charges

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving kinetic energy and circular motion, specifically focusing on a model airplane flying in a horizontal circle with point charges affecting the system. The original poster describes a scenario where the kinetic energy changes due to the introduction of point charges, leading to a need to determine the magnitude of these charges.

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the force and kinetic energy using equations but expresses confusion regarding the calculations and the relationship between the forces involved. Some participants question the validity of the backward calculation approach and the assumptions made during the derivation of forces.

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There are multiple interpretations being explored, with some participants agreeing on certain derivations while others express uncertainty about the steps taken. Guidance has been offered, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the correct approach to the problem.

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The original poster indicates a potential misunderstanding in the calculations related to force and kinetic energy, and there is mention of a specific numerical value for charge that has been discussed, but the context of how this was derived remains unclear.

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For the life of me I can't seem to get this problem.

An electrically neutral model airplane is flying in a horizontal circle in a 3m guideline, which is nearly parallel to the floor. The line breaks when the Kinetic energy is 50J. Now, reconsider the same situation, except now there is a point charge of +q and -q on either ends of the guideline. The line now breaks when the KE is 51.8 J. Find the magnitude of the charges.

I tried relating v2 = Fr/m, and equating that to v2=2(KE)/m so Fr/m = 2(deltaKE)/m and got a force of 1.2 N. I figure I have to find the force before I can find the point charge, but I can't seem to find the force. When I worked backward from the solution, the force turned out to be around 7x10(4) N. Which makes more sense. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for any help

 
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I completely agree with your derivation of the force change being 1.2N. What is the 'solution'?
 
The answer is 3.5x10(-5) C
 
I get that this charge corresponds to a force of about 1.2N at a distance of 3m. I think the problem is in the "working backwards" part.
 
I figured it out. I was dividing by two for some reason, and then realized I had to square root the answer. Thanks for your help :)
 
I actually am working on this exact problem and can't figure out what to do. Is there a possibility you could type out the steps of approaching this problem?? That would be great!
 

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