Kinetic energy of electron after beta decay

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The discussion centers around the kinetic energy of electrons produced during beta decay, exploring whether this energy is constant and how it can be calculated based on the properties of the parent atom. Participants delve into the variability of kinetic energy across different isotopes and the distribution of energy between emitted particles.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether the kinetic energy of electrons from beta decay is constant and seek equations for its calculation based on atomic properties.
  • It is noted that the total energy available in beta decay is fixed by the mass difference between initial and final nuclei, but the energy distribution between the electron and neutrino varies randomly.
  • Participants provide examples of specific isotopes, indicating that the kinetic energy of beta decay electrons varies significantly (e.g., tritium with 5 keV, C-14 with 50 keV, Co-60 with 300 keV).
  • One participant questions the relationship between the energy of decay and the energy of emitted particles, suggesting that heavier elements produce more energetic decays.
  • A participant raises a question about the particles emitted during beta decay and presents a calculation regarding the kinetic energy of the antineutrino, expressing confusion over the resulting velocity exceeding the speed of light.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of providing equations for verification and cautions about potential arithmetic errors in calculations.
  • There is a correction regarding the decay product of tritium, clarifying that it decays into He-3, not He-4.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the kinetic energy of beta decay electrons is not constant and varies with the nuclide. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the specifics of energy distribution and the implications of calculations related to the velocities of emitted particles, leaving some questions unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations presented lack detailed equations, and there are concerns about potential roundoff errors in numerical computations. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity regarding the definitions and assumptions used in calculations.

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Is that a constant? If not, is there an equation that allows us to calculate its kinetic energy based on the properties of the atom it came from?
 
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The total energy available in the decay is fixed, according to the difference in mass between the initial and final nuclei. However, that energy is distributed between two outgoing particles, the electron and the (anti)neutrino, and that distribution varies randomly from one decay to another. So beta-decay electrons from a particular isotope have different energies, ranging from zero up to the total energy available.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/nuclear/beta2.html
 
Ok, I think I see. So is this why a tritium decay into He4 isn't very energetic but a decay in a heavier element could be quite energetic?
 
heh you beat me to it :)
 
Sorry, was typing that question as you were typing the answer :)
 
the energy in beta decay is shared between the electron (positron) and a neutrino or antineutrino so jtbell answer is best
 
Another newb question, the total energy resulting from a tritium atom undergoing beta decay is 18.59 keV. According to wiki the average kinetic energy of the electron is 5.7 keV leaving 12.89 keV on average attributed to the antineutrino.

Are those the only particles emitted during beta decay?

Maybe I did the maths incorrectly but the 12.89 keV kinetic energy translated to relativistic velocity for a particle with the rest mass range of an electron neutrino (< 2.2 eV) puts the upper velocity limit at > 2.998*10^8 m/s. How is that possible?
 
Xavius said:
Maybe I did the maths incorrectly

We can't tell you whether your equations are correct if you don't tell us what they are. :smile:

Even if your equations are correct, you have to be very very careful about the arithmetic in a calculation like this, because roundoff errors in intermediate steps can bite you hard.

For K = 12890 eV and mc2 = 2.2 eV I get v/c = 0.999999985.
 
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Small correction, T decays into He3, not He4.
 
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That's the problem, I don't know the equations, I'm a total amateur :) I was plugging the values into wolfram and that's what it spit out. I think the math it did was bugged because I put in a value of 1 MeV kinetic energy and it was less than 1c.
 

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