Kinetic Friction toboggan Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of kinetic friction for a toboggan being pulled across snow. Participants clarify that the net force on the toboggan is zero since it moves at constant speed, and the tension force must be analyzed as its horizontal component. There is confusion regarding the correct trigonometric function to use for determining this component, with one participant initially suggesting arcsin and later correcting to arctan. The error in calculating the coefficient of kinetic friction stems from not accounting for the vertical component of the rope's tension, which reduces the normal force. Accurate calculations are essential for determining the correct coefficient of kinetic friction, which should be 0.0950.
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A rescue worker pulls an injured skier lying on a toboggan (with a combined mass of 127 kg) across flat snow at a constant speed. A 2.43 m rope is attached to the toboggan at ground level, and the rescuer holds the rope taut at shoulder level. If the rescuer's shoulders are 1.65 m above the ground, and the tension in the rope is 148 N, what is the coefficient of kinetic friction between the toboggan and the snow?

I have two questions about this problem.

Is the net force of the toboggan = Tension force - Friction force = ma = 0 ??

Is the Rope tension force = 148*cos(arcsin(1.65/2.43)) ??

I don't know if I am reading the problem about the rope part wrong . Should we be using trigonometry here?
 
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r_swayze said:
Is the net force of the toboggan = Tension force - Friction force = ma = 0 ??

Yes, but careful: the tension force is not the total tension in the rope, but the horizontal component of the total tension.

Is the Rope tension force = 148*cos(arcsin(1.65/2.43)) ??

If you mean the horizontal component of the tension, yes.


I don't know if I am reading the problem about the rope part wrong .

I'm reading it the same way you are.
 
Yes, I meant the horizontal component of the rope tension.

So, that means that the Friction force is the negative of the rope tension's horizontal component?

I computed this and I got the wrong answer. I got a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.0868, when the answer should be 0.0950.

Where have I erred?
 
The angle should be arctan(1.65/2.43), not arcsin.

EDIT: What I just said is totally wrong and arcsin was correct in the first place.
 
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I suspect that you used the full weight of the sled+skier as the normal force, and neglected the fact that the vertical component of the rope's pulling force would pull up on them slightly, reducing the normal force.
 
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