Kinimatics: Find a & b for Projected Particle

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The discussion revolves around solving a kinematics problem involving a particle projected vertically upwards. The user correctly calculated the initial speed, u, as 29.4 m/s but is uncertain about the total time for the particle to return to the starting point. They attempted to find the time by analyzing when the particle reaches one-third of its initial speed and added four seconds to their calculations. The equation used, 0=9.8t-4.9t^2, was derived from the motion equations, but there was confusion about the velocity values and the approach taken. Ultimately, the user received guidance to simplify the problem by directly applying velocity equations.
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I have gotten the right ans for this question, but I am not too sure if I am worked it out the right way.

Question: A particle is projected vertically upwards from a point O with speed u ms^{-1}. Two seconds later it is still moving upwards with a speed \frac{1}{3}u ms^{-1}. Find a: the value of u, b: the time from instant that the particle leaves O to the instant that it returns to O.

I worked out U which is 29.4ms^-1.

It b: I am having trouble with, as I stated I have the right ans, but to sure on if I have gotten the ans correctly.

What I have done it is take the part where the ball is at 1/3 u and workout out the time of travel from the part where it passes 1/3u again and the add on 4 seconds. Not very good at explain hopefully the math will show better.

0=9.8t-4.9t^2 → 4.9t^2-9.8t=0 solve and t=0 and t=2. So I then add on the 4sec and total time is 6 secs. Is this correct or not?

I would appreciate any help, big thanks in advance.

Sorry for the repost, the first one keeps telling me its invalid I can't edit it at all. So could one of the mods remove my older post.
 
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Taylor_1989 said:
0=9.8t-4.9t^2 → 4.9t^2-9.8t=0 solve and t=0 and t=2. So I then add on the 4sec and total time is 6 secs. Is this correct or not?
Please explain where this equation comes from. Where did you get a velocity of 9.8?

Why not deal directly with velocity equations? Much simpler.
 
I got it from the 1/3*29.4. I didn't know that I could deal with directly as there are two different velocity, for the way up. That is why I broke it down.
 
Taylor_1989 said:
I got it from the 1/3*29.4.
But that kind of assumes the answer, doesn't it?

I didn't know that I could deal with directly as there are two different velocity, for the way up. That is why I broke it down.
Just use vf = vi - gt .
 
Okay I am with you. Thanks for the help.
 
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