Lagrange Identity Sum Notation

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of sum notation in the context of Lagrange's Identity, specifically focusing on the double sum involving indices k and j, where k is less than j, within a mathematical framework.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the correct interpretation of the sum notation, with one participant questioning whether it represents a double sum. Others clarify the indexing and suggest visualizing the pairs of indices in a grid format to understand the summation limits better.

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The discussion is progressing with participants providing clarifications and visual aids to enhance understanding. There is an acknowledgment of the notation's meaning, and participants are engaging with the concepts presented.

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Participants are discussing the implications of the sum notation within the constraints of the mathematical identity, focusing on the specific conditions of the indices involved.

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Hi, how do I interpret the last sum:
http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/LagrangesIdentity.html

Sum (...)
1<=k < j <= n

Is it the double sum:

Sum( Sum( (a_k*b_j - a_j*b_k)^2 from k = 1 to n) from j = 2 to n ) ?
 
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In your notation it would be:

Sum( Sum( (a_k*b_j - a_j*b_k)^2 from k = 1 to j-1) from j = 2 to n )

as it's a sum of pairs (k,j) from {1,...,n}x{1,...,n} where k is strictly less than j.

If you arrange the pairs of {1,...,n}x{1,...,n} in an nxn grid with k indexing the rows and j the columns like so:

(1,1), (1,2), (1,3),...
(2,1), (2,2), (2,3),...
...

your sum is over the terms above the main diagonal, e.g. for n=3 it's the bold terms:

(1,1), (1,2), (1,3)
(2,1), (2,2), (2,3)
(3,1), (3,2), (3,3)
 
I like to think of it as the sum over all vectors (k,i) where k and i can take any value btw 1 and n, BUT we consider only case vectors for which k<i.
 
Thanks, I see what the notation means, and your way of visualizing the index pairs of the terms being summed was very helpful too, as I never thought to think about it like that.
 

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