Lagrangian Mechanics - Kepler problem, Conservation

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The discussion focuses on solving the Kepler problem using Lagrangian mechanics, specifically addressing the transformation of coordinates and the change in the Lagrangian. The user correctly applies the coordinate transformation \(\vec{x}' = \vec{x} + \alpha\vec{\gamma}\) and derives the change in Lagrangian \(\Delta L\) through a series of expansions and simplifications. Ultimately, the user resolves the problem by applying the BAC - CAB rule and substituting \(\frac{dp}{dt}\) with the force derived from the potential, confirming the solution to the homework problem.

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Homework Statement


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I am assuming the coordinate transformation is \vec{x}' = \vec{x} + \alpha\vec{\gamma} ?
Then you have \vec{v}' = \vec{v} + \alpha\frac{d\vec{\gamma}}{dt}
And r is the magnitude of the x vector.

The Attempt at a Solution


Part A.
So to get the change in lagrangian, I put the primed v and x into the Lagrangian and subtracted the given lagrangian to get:
\Delta L = \frac{1}{2}m|\vec{v} + \alpha\frac{d\vec{\gamma}}{dt}|^2 + \frac{k}{|\vec{x} + \alpha\vec{\gamma}|} - \frac{1}{2}m|v|^2 - \frac{k}{r}

So following examples from class, I expand the vector magnitude terms and neglected the second order alpha quantity, which leaves me with

\Delta L = \frac{1}{2}m(2\alpha \vec{v} \cdot \frac{d\vec{\gamma}}{dt}) + \frac{k}{\sqrt{|\vec{x}|^2 + 2 \vec{x}\cdot\alpha\vec{\gamma}}} - \frac{k}{r}

So I thought maybe to taylor expand the first k/r term up to first order alpha, after factoring out |\vec{x}|^2. And since |x| is r, i can cancel out the last k/r term. That leaves me with
\Delta L = m(\alpha \vec{v} \cdot \frac{d\vec{\gamma}}{dt}) - \frac{k\alpha}{|\vec{x}|^3}(\vec{x}\cdot\vec{\gamma})

Now taking the derivative of gamma, and noting that dn/dt should be zero and that p cross dx/dt and dp/dt cross x should also be zero, I get for the final expression, plugging everything in

\Delta L = m\alpha[\vec{v} \cdot [\frac{d\vec{x}}{dt}\times( \vec{p}\times\hat{n}) + \vec{x} \times (\frac{d\vec{p}}{dt} \times \hat{n})]] - \frac{k\alpha}{|\vec{x}|^3} [\vec{x} \cdot [\hat{n} \times (\vec{p} \times \vec{x}) + \vec{x} \times (\vec{p} \times \hat{n})]]

But from here, I don't really see how I could get it to equal part b, or if I even did the right process, I probably made a mistake in getting the difference, any tips?
 

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Just wanted to update saying I have solved this so it doesn't stay unanswered, by applying the BAC - CAB rule and then replacing dp/dt with the force you find from the given potential.
 

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