Laser Question - Axial Modes & Gain Saturation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of axial modes in laser physics, particularly in relation to gain saturation and the gain curve during continuous wave (CW) operation. Participants explore theoretical implications of gain changes on mode stability and the characteristics of the gain curve.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether other axial modes should drop below the gain threshold and disappear as population inversion decreases, suggesting this is not supported by experimental evidence but seeks theoretical clarification.
  • Another participant proposes that saturation of the lasing transition leads to broadening of the linewidth, referred to as 'power broadening', which may relate to the gain curve becoming flatter.
  • A third participant seeks to clarify the meaning of 'move' in the context of modes and reiterates the connection between power broadening and the flattening of the gain curve.
  • There is mention of a specific textbook and figure that prompted the question, indicating reliance on existing literature for understanding the concepts discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the theoretical implications of gain saturation on axial modes, with multiple competing views on whether modes should disappear or if the gain curve flattens in steady state operation. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific texts and figures that contribute to the confusion, indicating that the discussion is influenced by particular interpretations of laser physics concepts. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the behavior of gain curves and axial modes.

ulver48
I am studying laser physics at the moment and there is something that confuses me. The laser output consists of the central laser mode and some axial modes due to constructive interference in the optical cavity. At first there is a high enough population inversion and while the laser works this population inversion decreases until a threshold is reached defined by internal losses and the losses due to the mirrors. So at the steady state the relation g(v)= g_th holds , where g(v) is the gain curve of the laser. If the initial gain is decreased due to a decrease of the population inversion then at some point g(vo)=g_th, where vo is the central frequency. Shouldn't the other modes move under the gain threshold due to the gain decrease and thus disappear with time? If that's not true then the gain curve must become flatter when continues wave (CW) operation is reached. Thanks for your time.
 
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ulver48 said:
I am studying laser physics at the moment and there is something that confuses me.

Your question is difficult for me to parse, but if I understand you correctly, saturation of the lasing transition is accompanied with broadening of the linewidth ('power broadening'). Does that answer your question?
 
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Sorry if I wasn't very clear. I try to understand which of the following statements is right and why :
a) The other modes move under the gain threshold due to the gain decrease and thus disappear with time. (That's surely not the case according to the experiments but what about theory? )
b) The gain curve must become flatter at the top when steady state operation is reached and for some of the modes around the central mode the equation g(v_m)=g_th holds where v_m is the frequency of these modes. Maybe there is also some kind of linewidth broadening.
c) There is a different explanation.
 
ulver48 said:
Sorry if I wasn't very clear. I try to understand which of the following statements is right and why :
a) The other modes move under the gain threshold due to the gain decrease and thus disappear with time. (That's surely not the case according to the experiments but what about theory? )
b) The gain curve must become flatter at the top when steady state operation is reached and for some of the modes around the central mode the equation g(v_m)=g_th holds where v_m is the frequency of these modes. Maybe there is also some kind of linewidth broadening.
c) There is a different explanation.

I guess I don't understand #1: what do you mean 'move'? As for #2, I would answer that 'power broadening' is equivalent to your 'gain curve must become flatter'

What textbook are you using?
 
Sorry. Now I understand that the second answer must be correct. I am using the textbook " Optoelectronics: An Introduction" by Wilson and Hawkes. But this question comes from the book "Laser Electronics" by Verdeyen. It's the picture 8.3 that confuses me in case you have the book, from the chapter 8 Laser Oscillation and Amplification.I could post the figure if you don't have the book.
 

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