Launch of the Sspace Shuttle and its effect on the Earth's motion

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Shooting a space shuttle into space decreases Earth's mass, theoretically affecting its kinetic energy, momentum, and velocity. The discussion emphasizes that while the effects are minuscule, they are real, and momentum should remain constant due to the assumption of no recoil from the gas pillar. The decrease in mass would lead to a slight increase in Earth's velocity, but the direction of the rocket launch could influence this outcome. Clarification on terminology is noted, as "theoretical" should be replaced with "minuscule" to accurately convey the scale of the effects. The example of two bricks in orbit illustrates the complexities of momentum and velocity changes in such scenarios.
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Assume we shoot a space shuttle of mass m to space. We know it affects the Earth's mass M by decreasing it to M2 = M-m. Assume that the gas pillar that the space shuttle shoots has no effects on earth, what would be the theoretical effects on kinetic energy, momentum and velocity of the Earth by the decreased mass, although miniscule obviously?
 
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EMguy said:
Assume we shoot a space shuttle of mass m to space. We know it affects the Earth's mass M by decreasing it to M2 = M-m. Assume that the gas pillar that the space shuttle shoots has no effects on earth, what would be the theoretical effects on kinetic energy, momentum and velocity of the Earth by the decreased mass, although miniscule obviously?
Can you do any of these calculations yourself? And why do you say "theoretical"? Do you not believe that the effects would be real?
 
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Can you do any of these calculations yourself? And why do you say "theoretical"? Do you not believe that the effects would be real?
I would assume that the momentum remained constant cause of the assumption of gas pillar having no effect, i.e no recoil effects? Then velocity would be increased with the decreased mass? Correct? Incorrect?

And by theoretical i mean real... just theoretical relating to the effects being miniscule.
 
EMguy said:
I would assume that the momentum remained constant cause of the assumption of gas pillar having no effect, i.e no recoil effects?
What are the components of momentum? Do they stay the same?

Then velocity would be increased with the decreased mass? Correct? Incorrect?
Would it matter in what direction the rocket was launched?

And by theoretical i mean real... just theoretical relating to the effects being miniscule.
OK, but that's poor terminology. If you mean minuscule, SAY minuscule.
 
Two bricks tied together are in a circular orbit around the earth. You don a space suit, carefully untie the string and remove one of the bricks without disturbing the other. Does the undisturbed brick double its orbital velocity as a result?
 
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