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The discussion revolves around understanding limits in calculus, particularly focusing on the notation and methods used to evaluate limits that involve indeterminate forms. Participants are exploring the correct mathematical notation and approaches to solve these types of problems effectively.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the appropriate notation for expressing limits and discussing the use of L'Hôpital's Rule. There are inquiries about transforming expressions to apply this rule and the significance of using logarithms in the process.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problems. Some are clarifying the use of L'Hôpital's Rule, while others are still seeking understanding of the notation and methods involved.

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There are mentions of specific constraints, such as the lack of examples in the textbook and the need for clarity on the use of mathematical notation in the context of limits. Participants are also reflecting on their previous knowledge of indeterminate forms.

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I know the limits of each are 1 and 3 respectively, and I did work them out by myself, but the question is 8 marks so I'm sure I didn't have enough correct notation, as I had like a line for each and I used more words than math.

What would the correct notation be for questions like these? My book has no examples for such.
 
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What do you mean by enough correct notation? 'Therefore' signs and 'since' signs?

How did you use more words than math?

I am not sure what you mean by correct notations, but if you want a hint how to start solving these problems apply logs on both sides. By the way have you stuided indeterminate forms?
 
Well for the first problem as n tend to infinity, 3 becomes negligible, therefore from the definition of the limit for n^1/n in the question, it also tends to 1. But what is the notation for this?

Its pretty much the same for the other aswell.

Thanks
 
I am still unclear about what you mean. After you know that the limit is an indeterminate form you can apply l'hospital's rule and then finally figure out that the limit is 1. You need to SIMPLIFY the expression inorder to figure out the answer. Simply 'estimating' by n^2/n etc, it isn't going to do it.
 
Sorry how do I use l'hospital's here? :P

I only used it in forms of f(x)/g(x).
 
Look up your textbook. Or google it
 
Firepanda said:
Sorry how do I use l'hospital's here? :P

I only used it in forms of f(x)/g(x).

You need to put each of these functions through a sequence of transformations to get it into a form suitable to apply l'Hopital's Rule.

First, take the natural log of the function (important: remember that you did this!). For the first problem, you will now have (1/n) · [ln{(n^2)+3}]. This is an indeterminate product in the limit as n approaches infinity. So we now rewrite it as an indeterminate ratio [ln{(n^2)+3}] / n , which gives inf./inf. You can now apply l'Hopital easily to this. The limit you get is the natural logarithm of the limit of your original function, so that limit is e^[your result].

The second one will be a bit more work, but will yield to the same method. (However, if you look at what is important in the argument of the radical as n becomes large, you can probably anticipate the result...)
 

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