Leaving PhD, need advice on networking

In summary, the speaker is currently considering options for their career, including transferring to another PhD program or giving up on physics altogether. They are also looking for a job, which will determine which option they choose. However, they feel that networking is a critical weakness for them in job searching. They seek advice on networking and discuss the use of avatars and their online presence. They also mention the difficulty of finding a job in the current economy, particularly in the field of physics. They mention their skills and traits acquired through their physics training and their willingness to teach both physics and mathematics. They also plan on attending an IT convention to network and promote their skills.
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Catria
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Due to extenuating circumstances that I am not going into at this point (however, I may provide additional details if necessary), I am considering I have a MS, which I earned prior to dropping out from my PhD. My MS project was on a theoretical project involving topological defects.

Thus far, I have two categories of options:

1) Transfer to another PhD program (to start in 2017)
2) Give up on physics altogether

In both cases I still am looking for a job. Whether I'll lean more towards 1 or 2 will depend on the job I will have. But the one item I feel is most critical for job searching in which I have weaknesses is networking. Perhaps some of you have some advice for networking that I do not know about... or even how to make use of.

P.S.: Job postings sometimes seem to set the bar for qualifications rather high; what kind of qualifications are employers most likely to "let slide" if a candidate seems a little weak in an area?
 
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Job postings are often a wishlist. If you would have everything listed there, you should probably look for a better job.
Catria said:
what kind of qualifications are employers most likely to "let slide" if a candidate seems a little weak in an area?
Depends on the job and the advertisement.
Missing work experience can be hard to balance with other things.
 
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Networking Tip 1
Manage your online presence. I don't get the precise meaning of your Avatar, but it appears to be a big red X through the NSERC logo. This potentially comes across as vindictive - whether intentional or not. If I were hiring and saw this it would draw into question whether at some point my company logo would be plastered over the internet with a red X through it.
 
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I have no use for that particular avatar anymore. That said, maybe a stint in the workforce could tell me whether I should try again for a PhD or not.

Nevertheless, I know about all too many stories of PhDs whose research dreams are broken shortly after graduation, or otherwise abandoned physics altogether.

mfb said:
Job postings are often a wishlist. If you would have everything listed there, you should probably look for a better job.Depends on the job and the advertisement.

I would have assumed that, with the economy down the drain, it reduces the amount of wiggle room employers may have to hire people...
 
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Catria said:
I would have assumed that, with the economy down the drain, it reduces the amount of wiggle room employers may have to hire people...

The economy has come back a long way - in the US at least - and while there's slack in some parts of the labor market, there are plenty of areas where qualified individuals are hard to find.

I'm not clear on what you actually want to do , so no idea which group you're in. Probably the first, since you're entry level, but maybe not, and maybe not for long.
 
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I know that it's often a conundrum faced when your research is in some theoretical area: sometimes finance seems adviseable, at other times IT (in high-tech industries or not) and finally, high school or community college teaching (a PhD is overkill for high school teaching, even though the local districts would not balk at one, unlike some American districts). My strategy may not be very sound, but, if I end up disliking whatever job I end up taking, then I can think about going back to graduate school, in which case I will have taken a gap year.

The main clue I have by now for cover letters is that I'm saying at some point: OK, here's what my physics training gave for traits, skills (problem solving, constant drive to learn, quantitative skills, quick learning being the traits I put forward almost every time and also attention to detail) and how I put these traits to use during my physics training, especially during the learning process of research. And, of course, mention how I heard about X job opening.

And, because mathematics, science teachers are in short supply in high schools, a physics graduate would come in and may be asked to teach mathematics if that's the only opening that leads to a full-year teaching load. Of course I also mention what I liked most about my TA duties in those cases.

Community colleges, however, are different in terms of supply vs. demand but I nevertheless indicated on cover letters that, due to the level of mathematical competency required to carry out a theoretical physics research project, I am willing to teach either physics or mathematics. (Community colleges in my area would teach at most multivariable calculus or linear algebra so I would think my claim has some basis; in addition, as an undergraduate I double-majored in physics and mathematics)

Locrian said:
The economy has come back a long way - in the US at least - and while there's slack in some parts of the labor market, there are plenty of areas where qualified individuals are hard to find.

I'm not clear on what you actually want to do , so no idea which group you're in. Probably the first, since you're entry level, but maybe not, and maybe not for long.

Canada is another bag of beans, in which case the economy is actually going down the drain, especially oil or mining. And oil was often an area where theorists of all physical walks would try their hands, at least when it thrived.

Regardless of where I would want to find work, networking is important.

What I'm about to do is to attend some IT convention where some companies active in R&D present how IT fits into their latest advances. Here I could say to interested parties that 1) it's essential to have a variety of viewpoints for the best ability to innovate, and 2) once you have learned programming in a language, you have acquired skills that are transferrable across programming languages and hence I'm willing to learn additional programming languages (Matlab being my primary language). On top of anything I may have to say about why I am a good fit to work in a particular area of IT.

P.S.: Because of extenuating circumstances, I had to take a medical leave. Last week, the conditions for return were given to me and returning to a PhD program without funding is a financial disaster waiting to happen and hence left the program. Also I needed to take care of myself before I could even think about getting a job.
 
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Catria said:
Canada is another bag of beans, in which case the economy is actually going down the drain, especially oil or mining. And oil was often an area where theorists of all physical walks would try their hands, at least when it thrived.

Regardless of where I would want to find work, networking is important.

What I'm about to do is to attend some IT convention where some companies active in R&D present how IT fits into their latest advances. Here I could say to interested parties that 1) it's essential to have a variety of viewpoints for the best ability to innovate, and 2) once you have learned programming in a language, you have acquired skills that are transferrable across programming languages and hence I'm willing to learn additional programming languages (Matlab being my primary language). On top of anything I may have to say about why I am a good fit to work in a particular area of IT.

P.S.: Because of extenuating circumstances, I had to take a medical leave. Last week, the conditions for return were given to me and returning to a PhD program without funding is a financial disaster waiting to happen and hence left the program. Also I needed to take care of myself before I could even think about getting a job.

I am also based in Canada as well (from Toronto, to be exact -- I believe you are from Montreal, based on the information you provided here on PF). The economy is especially weak in the western provinces and in parts of northern Ontario due to the fall in oil and other commodity prices, but the economic situation in my area is still fairly robust, with strong demand in areas like IT and tech. I don't know what the economic situation in Montreal is like, but (setting aside for the moment the situation with Bombardier), employments prospects in various technical areas are not that weak there either, if I'm not mistaken.

At any rate, I think your plan to attend an IT convention is a good one, as this would give you an opportunity to explore what are some active areas of work involved, and provide you with the opportunity to network. I would also advise you to focus on learning the additional programming languages first (either on your own or through online courses like Coursera or EdX) prior to attending the said convention (depending on when the convention is expected to take place). I would also suggest that you set up a Github link to post any open-source projects or codes that you are planning to develop.

If you are interested in pursuing a career in data science, I might also suggest you look into the following:

https://www.thedataincubator.com/

I know the link above specifies those who have their PhDs, but perhaps the fellowship may well consider current PhD students or those thinking of leaving their PhD program as well.
 

1. What are some networking strategies for leaving a PhD program?

Some networking strategies for leaving a PhD program include attending conferences and workshops, joining professional organizations, connecting with alumni from your program, utilizing social media platforms such as LinkedIn, and reaching out to individuals in your desired industry or field.

2. How can I maintain relationships with my colleagues and mentors after leaving my PhD program?

One way to maintain relationships with colleagues and mentors after leaving a PhD program is to stay connected through social media or email. You can also schedule occasional catch-up calls or meetings to keep in touch and continue to learn from them.

3. What can I do to make the most of networking opportunities?

To make the most of networking opportunities, it is important to have a clear goal in mind and do your research beforehand. Be prepared to talk about your skills and interests, ask questions, and actively listen to others. Follow up with individuals you meet and maintain a professional and positive attitude.

4. How can networking help me in my career after leaving a PhD program?

Networking can be extremely beneficial in your career after leaving a PhD program. It can help you build professional relationships, learn about job opportunities, gain new perspectives and insights, and receive mentorship and support from others in your field.

5. Are there any specific networking events or resources for individuals who have left a PhD program?

Yes, there are many networking events and resources specifically geared towards individuals who have left a PhD program. These may include job fairs, career workshops, alumni events, and online networking groups. It can also be helpful to connect with other former PhD students who have successfully transitioned into different careers.

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