Length Contraction Formula: How to Calculate Observed Length at High Speeds

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The discussion centers on calculating the observed length of a spacecraft moving at 0.900c relative to the ground, using the length contraction formula. The proper length, denoted as L0, is identified as L, the length measured by an observer on the spacecraft. Participants clarify the correct application of the formula, emphasizing the need to avoid algebraic mistakes during substitution. The correct relationship between the observed length and proper length is reiterated, highlighting the role of the Lorentz factor, γ(v). The conversation concludes with a resolution to the original problem, ensuring understanding of the length contraction concept.
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Homework Statement


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A spacecraft moves at a speed of 0.900c with respect to the ground. If its length is L, as measured by an observer on the spacecraft , what is the length measured by a ground observer?

Homework Equations


observed length(delta L) = proper length(delta Lo) * sqrt(1-(velocity/speed of light)^2)

The attempt at a solution
I am unable to proceed with this problem as I am not given the proper length. I don't understand if I am supposed to be using a different formula or if the answer is supposed to be an actual value or not. Any help in regards to the proper formula would be appreciated.
 
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What is the relationship between ##L## and the proper length?
 
Matt21 said:
If its length is L, as measured by an observer on the spacecraft ,

Matt21 said:
I am not given the proper length.
The required answer is not numerical, I think.
 
Matt21 said:
I am not given the proper length
Yes, you are given the proper length. It is L.

Be very careful in your substitution, this could get confusing.
 
When plugging in the values that I have into the equation I get Lo = L/((0.900c)^2/c^2) = L/0.316. Unless I did something wrong, I'm wondering if this is the right answer because it certainly doesn't seem like it.
 
I can't see how you got where you are by proper re-arrangement of that formula. Try to do that manipulation again- sticking carefully to the rules of algebra.
For instance, what happened to the "1-" bit? And the square root?
 
What you want here is:

##L=\dfrac{L_0}{\gamma(v)}##

where:

##\gamma(v)\equiv\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-\left(\dfrac{v}{c}\right)^2}}##

And so we have:

##L=L_0\sqrt{1-\left(\dfrac{v}{c}\right)^2}\tag{1}##

This is what you gave initially, but you wound up dividing, and not by ##\gamma(v)##. Try using the formula you initially gave (1).
 
MarkFL said:
What you want here is:

##L=\dfrac{L_0}{\gamma(v)}##

where:

##\gamma(v)\equiv\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-\left(\dfrac{v}{c}\right)^2}}##

And so we have:

##L=L_0\sqrt{1-\left(\dfrac{v}{c}\right)^2}\tag{1}##

This is what you gave initially, but you wound up dividing, and not by ##\gamma(v)##. Try using the formula you initially gave (1).
That's fine but I was hoping that he would dig himself out of that one. (I am a hateful person sometimes :wink:)
 
sophiecentaur said:
That's fine but I was hoping that he would dig himself out of that one. (I am a hateful person sometimes :wink:)

My apologies; during the time it took me to compose my post you had posted. If I had seen your post first, I certainly wouldn't have replied. :oops:
 
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No harm done. It's very hard not to give the answer when it's staring you in the face. But, hopefully, we have solved the OP's problem now.
 
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