Light through a dense material

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of light as it travels through dense materials, specifically focusing on energy loss, red-shift phenomena, and the mechanisms involved in these processes. The scope includes theoretical considerations and potential experimental implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether light loses energy on average as it interacts with atoms in a dense material, leading to a potential red-shift.
  • Another participant suggests that the dominant mechanism for energy loss is through complete absorption of light quanta, with red-shift resulting from processes like Raman scattering.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that energy loss in a wave is due to a decrease in the number of photons rather than a decrease in energy per photon, noting that while Raman scattering can cause red-shift, the effect is very weak.
  • One participant references a study that discusses photon number conserving scattering as a method to cool photons, potentially leading to Bose Einstein Condensation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of energy loss and the implications for red-shift, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the nature of light interaction with dense materials, the specific conditions under which red-shift occurs, or the mathematical relationships involved.

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As light moves through a dense material, it would interact with the atoms. Would the light lose energy, on average, in the process? As a result, would we observe a red-shift as it moves through?

If so, what is the relationship between the amount of red-shift (energy lost) to the distance of material being traversed?
 
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The dominant mechanism for energy loss is usually light quanta being completely absorbed.
A red shift results on the mean e.g. from Raman scattering.
 
Energy in a wave is lost because the number of photons decreases (as opposed to the energy per photon decreasing) through absorption and scattering.

Raman scattering can red-shift photons but this effect is extremely weak.

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