Limits and difference of squares help

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit as x approaches 3 for the expression [sqrt(2x+3)-x] / (x-3). The problem is situated within the context of limits and algebraic manipulation, particularly involving the difference of squares and factoring techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of difference of squares and factoring to simplify the expression. Some express difficulty in factoring (x-3) out of the numerator, while others suggest that since the numerator equals zero at x=3, it must contain (x-3) as a factor. L'Hopital's Rule is also mentioned as an alternative approach, raising questions about its appropriateness given the context of the textbook.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some finding clarity in the factoring approach while others remain uncertain about the implications of using L'Hopital's Rule. There is a recognition of different methods being discussed, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the preferred approach.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the textbook being referenced is older and may not cover certain techniques like L'Hopital's Rule, which could affect the learning objectives. There is also a mention of the need to understand factoring as a foundational skill in limit problems.

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Homework Statement



find the limit as x tends to 3 of [sqrt(2x+3)-x] / (x-3)

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



This is from an old Protter textbook I am working through. I started with the difference of squares which results in

[2x + 3 - x^2]/ [(x-3)*sqrt(2x+3)+x]

but now I'm stuck. I can't seem to factor (x-3) out of the numerator.
 
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LutherBaker said:

Homework Statement



find the limit as x tends to 3 of [sqrt(2x+3)-x] / (x-3)

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



This is from an old Protter textbook I am working through. I started with the difference of squares which results in

[2x + 3 - x^2]/ [(x-3)*sqrt(2x+3)+x]

but now I'm stuck. I can't seem to factor (x-3) out of the numerator.

Well, you can. 2x+3-x^2 is equal to zero if you put x=3. Hence it must have a factor of x-3.
 


LutherBaker said:

Homework Statement



find the limit as x tends to 3 of [sqrt(2x+3)-x] / (x-3)

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



This is from an old Protter textbook I am working through. I started with the difference of squares which results in

[2x + 3 - x^2]/ [(x-3)*sqrt(2x+3)+x]

but now I'm stuck. I can't seem to factor (x-3) out of the numerator.
I don't see any ways that involve the conjugate or factoring, but L'Hopital's Rule gives a result.
 


Dick said:
Well, you can. 2x+3-x^2 is equal to zero if you put x=3. Hence it must have a factor of x-3.

Got it! That was all I needed.

Turns out that 2x+3-x^2 can be refactored a few ways. First of all, I rearranged the components to -x^2+2x+3 and then I determined both (-x+3)(x+1) ... and now I see it ... (x-3)(-x-1). That allows me to solve the limit correctly. I just didn't try hard enough with the -x^2 in there.

Regarding your point above here, does this property have a name? IE: if you can replace x with a number, then by definition, the function can be refactored into (x-#)(...). I've not noticed/appreciated that property before.
 


Mark44 said:
I don't see any ways that involve the conjugate or factoring, but L'Hopital's Rule gives a result.

Someone else mentioned that here at work but was quick to ask if the text had reviewed it. I'm only on chapter 2 so I think that L'Hopital's approach might avoid what the text, at this point, is trying to convey. Namely, learning how to refactor to find limits.

I'm just guessing though - its an old book. Thanks for the input!
 


I like Dick's approach better - I prefer a factoring approach over using L'Hopital's Rule, since factoring is in a sense, a simpler approach.

BTW, in my first college calculus class we used one edition of the Protter & Morrey book. I still have it. It's very different from contemporary calculus texts - few illustrations, none in color. I probably paid less than $10 for it new.
 

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