Line integral of the second kind

In summary, the conversation discusses using Green's theorem to find the area of a surface enclosed by a polar curve. The area can be calculated using the line integral of the second kind, and the functions F(x,y) and G(x,y) can be chosen to satisfy Green's theorem and determine the area of the region. The area is also equal to half of the integral of the polar curve squared with respect to theta.
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Homework Statement


Given the polar curve [itex]r = 3\sqrt{\cos{2\varphi}},\ -\frac{\pi}{4}\leq\varphi\leq\frac{\pi}{4}[/itex]. Find the area of the surface enclosed by the curve using line integral of the second kind.

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According to Green's theorem: if [itex]F(x,y)[/itex] and [itex]G(x,y)[/itex] are continuous on a smooth closed graph ([itex]r(\varphi)[/itex] in this case), then [itex]\oint_L F(x,y)\mathrm{d}x + G(x,y)\mathrm{d}y = \iint_D G_x(x,y) - F_y(x,y)\mathrm{d}x\mathrm{d}y[/itex].

The textbook, however, is very ineloquent as to what exactly [itex]F[/itex] and [itex]G[/itex] are and there are no examples given with polar curves. Do I have to parameterize the curve? I don't understand. :wideeyed:
 
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According to Green's theorem: if F(x,y)F(x,y) and G(x,y)G(x,y) are continuous on a smooth closed graph (r(φ)r(\varphi) in this case), then ∮LF(x,y)dx+G(x,y)dy=∬DGx(x,y)−Fy(x,y)dxdy\oint_L F(x,y)\mathrm{d}x + G(x,y)\mathrm{d}y = \iint_D G_x(x,y) - F_y(x,y)\mathrm{d}x\mathrm{d}y.
This looks like a slightly offbeat version of Stokes' theorem.
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This is the curve. Observe:
  1. x = r*cos(φ), y = r*sin(φ)
  2. sin(-φ) = -sin(φ), so the part above the x-axis is equal to the part below
  3. You do not need any fancy theorems to do this integral.
 
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Homework Statement


Given the polar curve [itex]r = 3\sqrt{\cos{2\varphi}},\ -\frac{\pi}{4}\leq\varphi\leq\frac{\pi}{4}[/itex]. Find the area of the surface enclosed by the curve using line integral of the second kind.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


According to Green's theorem: if [itex]F(x,y)[/itex] and [itex]G(x,y)[/itex] are continuous on a smooth closed graph ([itex]r(\varphi)[/itex] in this case), then [itex]\oint_L F(x,y)\mathrm{d}x + G(x,y)\mathrm{d}y = \iint_D G_x(x,y) - F_y(x,y)\mathrm{d}x\mathrm{d}y[/itex].

The textbook, however, is very ineloquent as to what exactly [itex]F[/itex] and [itex]G[/itex] are and there are no examples given with polar curves. Do I have to parameterize the curve? I don't understand. :wideeyed:

The area is ##\iint_D 1 \, dx dy##, so you need to devise ##F(x,y), G(x,y)## that satisfy ##G_x - F_y = 1 ## everywhere (or, at least, inside the curve). Can you think of some convenient functions ##F,G## that have that property?
 
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Find the area of the surface enclosed by the curve using line integral of the second kind.

The area of the region is what you mean.

The area of a polar region ##r = f(\theta)## is given by:

$$\frac{1}{2} \int_a^b f^2(\theta) \space d\theta$$

This will allow you to solve the question quite easily as you already have the limits.

On a side note, I think you are referring to the reverse implication of Green's theorem, which allows you to compute areas. Since the area of a region ##D## is given by:

$$\text{Area}(D) = \iint_D \space dA$$

We wish to choose the functions ##P## and ##Q## satisfying Green's theorem such that:

$$\frac{\partial Q}{\partial x} - \frac{\partial P}{\partial y} = 1$$

There are several possibilities for choosing these functions, which all lead to the same result for the area of a region ##D##. Let's choose ##P = -\frac{1}{2}y## and ##Q = \frac{1}{2}x##. The following result can then be deduced directly from Green's theorem:

$$\text{Area}(D) = \frac{1}{2} \oint_C xdy - y dx = \iint_D \space dA$$

If you were to "go backwards" from ##r = f(\theta)## by using polar co-ordinates, you could also use the above result to get the exact same answer, i.e:

$$\text{Area}(D) = \frac{1}{2} \oint_C xdy - y dx = \frac{1}{2} \int_a^b f^2(\theta) \space d\theta = \iint_D \space dA$$
 
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Would the area then be
[tex]A = \int_{ -\frac{\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}} \int_0^{r(\varphi)} r\mathrm{d}r\mathrm{d}\varphi[/tex]
Edit: Yes, it is, thanks, I get it now.
 
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What is the definition of line integral of the second kind?

The line integral of the second kind, also known as the surface integral or flux integral, is a mathematical concept used in vector calculus to calculate the flux of a vector field through a surface. It involves integrating a vector field over a surface to determine the amount of flow passing through that surface.

What is the difference between line integral of the first kind and line integral of the second kind?

The line integral of the first kind involves integrating a scalar function over a curve, while the line integral of the second kind involves integrating a vector field over a surface. The line integral of the first kind is also known as a path integral, while the line integral of the second kind is also known as a surface integral or flux integral.

What is the significance of line integral of the second kind in physics?

The line integral of the second kind has many applications in physics, particularly in the study of fluid mechanics and electromagnetism. It is used to calculate the flow of a fluid through a surface, as well as the electric or magnetic flux through a surface. It is also used in the study of vector fields and their behavior in three-dimensional space.

What are some common techniques for evaluating line integrals of the second kind?

Some common techniques for evaluating line integrals of the second kind include using parametrization, Green's theorem, and Stokes' theorem. These techniques involve breaking down the surface into smaller, more manageable parts and using known formulas to calculate the integral. Other methods, such as using the divergence theorem, can also be used in certain cases.

How can line integrals of the second kind be applied in real-life situations?

Line integrals of the second kind have many practical applications in various fields, such as engineering, physics, and computer graphics. For example, they can be used to calculate the work done by a force on an object moving along a curved path, the flow of a fluid through a pipe or channel, and the electric or magnetic field strength at a given point. They are also used in computer simulations to model and analyze complex systems.

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