Linear algebra basis/dimensions

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The original poster attempts to find the dimensions and basis of specific vector spaces involving polynomials and solutions to a differential equation. The first part concerns polynomials of degree at most n with coefficients summing to zero, while the second part addresses functions that solve a given differential equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of a basis and the concept of linear independence. There is confusion regarding the term "factors" in relation to the differential equation, and participants question the validity of the original poster's attempts to identify the basis for both parts.

Discussion Status

Some participants are seeking clarification on the definitions and concepts involved, particularly regarding the nature of the basis and the interpretation of the differential equation. There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly express the basis in each case, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note the need for specificity in defining the polynomials and functions involved, as well as the importance of linear independence in the context of the basis. There is also mention of potential misunderstandings related to the differential equation's formulation.

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Homework Statement


Find the dimensions and basis of the following vector space V over the given field K:
a) V is the set of all polynomials over R (real) of degree at most n and whose coefficients add to 0, K = R (real numbers)
b) K = R (real), and V is the set of functions from R to R which are solutions of the differential equation: d2f/dx2 - 9f = 0


Homework Equations


definition of basis, spanning and dimensions


The Attempt at a Solution


for part a) i think the dimetions is N and the basis is all the factors

for part b) i think it has 2 dimentions and the basis is df/dx - 3 and df/dx +3
 
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Sort of. But what do you mean by 'factors' and df/dx-3 isn't a function from R->R. It's a differential equation. Can you spell out exactly what a basis is in each case?
 
I might be wrong, but it appears that you "factored" this differential equation:
d2f/dx2 - 9f = 0

to get this:
df/dx - 3 and df/dx +3
One problem with that is that the first DE had -9f, not -9.
 
Dick said:
Sort of. But what do you mean by 'factors' and df/dx-3 isn't a function from R->R. It's a differential equation. Can you spell out exactly what a basis is in each case?

By basic i mean something which is linear independent and spans V

and by factors i mean suppose a1, a2, a3 ... an were the roots, then the factors would be (x - a1), (x - a2), (x - a3) ... (x - an) I suppose i should specfy the Real roots
 
rosh300 said:
By basic i mean something which is linear independent and spans V

and by factors i mean suppose a1, a2, a3 ... an were the roots, then the factors would be (x - a1), (x - a2), (x - a3) ... (x - an) I suppose i should specfy the Real roots

Exactly. In the first case you should specify N polynomials and in the second case you should specify two functions.
 

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