Linear algebra- set of complex valued functions

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The problem involves the set of complex-valued functions defined on the real line, specifically those that satisfy the condition f(-t) = conjugate(f(t)). The task is to provide an example of such a function that is not real-valued.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the condition f(-t) = conjugate(f(t)) and explore how to express complex functions in terms of their real and imaginary parts. Questions arise regarding the conditions that the real-valued functions u(t) and v(t) must satisfy.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, deriving conditions for the functions involved and attempting to construct examples. Some have proposed specific functions and are verifying their validity against the problem's requirements.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the conditions on the functions u(t) and v(t), as well as the requirement for the function to be non-real-valued. Participants express varying levels of understanding and seek clarification on the mathematical relationships involved.

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Homework Statement


Let V be the set of all complex-valued functions f on the real line such that (for all t in R),
f(-t)=f(t) with a bar on top (can't figure out Latex, sorry)
The bar denotes complex conjugation.

Give an example of a function in V which is not real-valued.


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Not quite sure what this means, just need a place to start really.
 
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Write f(t)=u(t)+iv(t) where u and v are real valued functions. Equate the real and imaginary parts of both sides of your equation. What are the conditions on u(t) and v(t)?
 
I didn't really know there were conditions on u(t) and v(t).
To get an example, can I just make those fuctions whatever real valued function that I want, like t-2, and then plug it in?
 
I mean the conditions you derive from f(-t)=conjugate(f(t)). If f(t)=u(t)+iv(t) isn't conjugate(f(t))=u(t)-iv(t)?
 
Ohh, yeah, it does. So I have to make f(t) so that when the t's are (-t)'s, u(t)+iv(t) turns into u(t)-iv(t)?
 
Yes, so u(-t)+iv(-t)=u(t)-iv(t), right?
 
Yep. Now I'm not sure where to go from here.
 
Equate real and imaginary parts of both sides. Come on, help me out here.
 
I'm sorry, I'm very confused here and I've never learned this before, so it's very frustrating.

When you equate the real and imaginary parts, do you get
u(-t)=u(t) and v(-t)=-v(t)?
 
  • #10
Yes, exactly. Can you find two functions u and v so that u(-t)=u(t) and v(-t)=(-v(t)) and v is not equal to zero? So f is not real valued?
 
  • #11
So if u(t)=t^2+1 and v(t)=t^3-t,
then f(t)=t^2 + 1 + i(t ^3-t)
= it^3 + t^2 - it + 1
Which is not real valued, so that's an example, correct?
 
  • #12
Yes, u(t)=1 and v(t)=t works too. If you want to make it even simpler.
 
  • #13
Ah yes, that is much simpler.
Thanks so much for the help, sorry I was very lost before. I appreciate your patience and guidance!
 

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