Loaded beams find where the maxinum deflection occurs on the beam

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the position along a loaded beam where the maximum deflection occurs. It involves theoretical considerations, mathematical modeling, and application of beam deflection equations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation EI d²y/dx² = m as a starting point for calculating deflection, questioning its correctness and how to find the maximum deflection position.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for details on the span and loading conditions, suggesting that identifying the maximum deflection requires developing a function for the bending moment.
  • A participant provides specific loading conditions, mentioning reactions RA and RB, and a downward point load, which may influence the deflection analysis.
  • One reply suggests visualizing the beam to locate the maximum deflection point and notes the necessity of geometric and material properties for calculating deflection.
  • Another participant argues that if EI is constant, the specific values are not necessary to find the maximum deflection position, recommending the integration of the bending moment equation and consideration of boundary conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of specific values for EI and the approach to finding the maximum deflection, indicating that multiple competing views remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided complete information regarding the beam's geometry or loading conditions, which may affect the analysis. There are also unresolved mathematical steps related to integration and boundary conditions.

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Homework Statement


calculate the position from A where the maximum deflection occurs. Your answer should be accurate to 3dp. You may assume IE= 100Mn


Homework Equations



I'm going to go with EI d2y/dx2 = m
(the 2 are meant to be squared)

The Attempt at a Solution


Is this equation correct and if yes how do I find out where abouts the deflection is?
 
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You need to give details of the span and the loading. If the loads vary, or there are point loads, you need to identify the approximate point of maximum deflection and then develop a function expressing M in terms of x from the left end. Then integrate once to get an expression for the gradient dy/dx
 
Hi, I have RA= 30 KN POINTING UP.
RB= 50 KN POINTING UP
80KN pointing down, 5m long, overall length 8m
 
Hi shortshanks, you have a simply supported beam with one point force acting down near the middle. If you imagine the beam in your mind, you should easily be able to see the point where the highest deflection occurs.

If you want to work out what the deflection is at this point, you will need some geometric and material properties of this beam. (modulus of elasticity and second moment of inertia)

if you want a calculator to work out the deflection, I've made one for http://learntoengineer.com/beam"
 
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If EI is constant, you don't need the values in order to work out the position of the maximum deflection. Shortshanks, you need the equation of the bending moment in the portion of the beam where the maximum deflection is thought to be. Integrate once, think about the boundary conditions to get the arbitrary constant, find the point of zero gradient. That is the point you want. For the purpose of this exercise you can let EI be 1.
 

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