Logarithmic Question: Solving for Unknowns Using Logarithm Properties"

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation log16(4354) + 3/log25(43) = a + b*log25 and identifying the values of a and b. The original poster struggles to find the correct value of b, initially calculating it as 4 instead of the expected 2. Participants clarify the use of logarithmic properties and suggest converting all logarithms to a common base for easier manipulation. They emphasize the importance of correctly applying the change of base formula and ensuring proper parentheses in the equation. The conversation highlights common pitfalls in logarithmic calculations and the need for careful attention to detail.
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Homework Statement


Hi, it maybe stupid question, but I struggle on this problem..
log16(4354)+3/log25(43)=a+b*log25

Homework Equations



Using properties:
logabn=n logab
logn(bc) = lognb+lognc
logba=1/logab

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't find the b number.
log16(4354)+3/log25(43)=6 log162+4log165+3/3log254=6(log22/log216)+4(log25/log216)+1/log254=3/2 + 2log252= 3/2 + 4log25

so a=3/2 b=4 but in the answer they find b to be 2 not 4
Can you please tell me where is my mistake?

Thanks
 
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gl0ck said:

Homework Statement


Hi, it maybe stupid question, but I struggle on this problem..
log16(4354+3/log25(43)=a+b*log25
You're missing a right parenthesis, so it's hard to tell what you're starting with.

Did you mean log16(4354)[/color] +3/log25(43)?
gl0ck said:

Homework Equations



Using properties:
logabn=n logab
logn(bc) = lognb+lognc
logba=1/logab

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't find the b number.
log16(4354+3/log25(43)=6 log162+4log165+3/3log254=6(log22/log216)+4(log25/log216)+1/log254=3/2 + 2log252= 3/2 + 4log25

so a=3/2 b=4 but in the answer they find b to be 2 not 4
Can you please tell me where is my mistake?

Thanks
 
Lol, yes, Sorry it is definitely log16(4354)+3/log25(43)
 
Can we at least presume you know the basic properties of logarithms and so know that log_{16}(4^35^4)= 3log_{16}(4)+ 4 log_{16}(5)? And, of course, since 16= 4^2, 4= 16^{1/2} so that log_{16}(4)= 1/2. That is, log_{16}(4^35^4)= 3+ 4log_{16}(5)
log_{25}(4^3)= 3log_{25}(4).

Perhaps what you are missing is that \log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_a(b)}. You can use that to change the log_{25} to log_{16}. Further, since, 16= 2^4, log_{2}(16)= 4 and so log_{16}(x)= \frac{log_2(x)}{4}

You can use that to change everything to log_2 as you have on the right.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Perhaps what you are missing is that \log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_a(b)}


I'm noob, but I think that you meant
\log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_b(a)}
Mainly because if you start with one base and end with two it was not a change of base.
I may be wrong.
 
besulzbach said:
I'm noob, but I think that you meant
\log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_b(a)}
Mainly because if you start with one base and end with two it was not a change of base.
I may be wrong.


Don't worry, you're correct :-p
 
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