Logitech X-530 - AM radio frequency

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the phenomenon of Logitech X-530 computer speakers picking up AM radio frequencies, particularly during instances of electrical interference, such as when lightning is turned off. Participants explore the causes of this issue and the specific AM frequencies that may be involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the speakers can pick up AM radio stations due to their construction and proximity to radio transmitters, suggesting that the cables may act as antennas.
  • Another participant describes their own experience with speakers picking up radio signals, attributing it to long speaker wire acting as an antenna and successfully identifying a local AM station frequency.
  • It is mentioned that the lack of specific tuned circuits in the speaker system makes it susceptible to picking up the strongest nearby signals, which could include various types of radio communications.
  • Suggestions are made regarding the use of RF chokes and capacitors to mitigate the issue, although no specific solutions are agreed upon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the phenomenon of speakers picking up radio signals is common and can be attributed to various factors, including cable length and proximity to transmitters. However, there is no consensus on the specific frequencies being picked up or the effectiveness of proposed solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various potential sources of interference, including AM and TV stations, as well as other radio communications, but do not resolve the specifics of which frequencies are being received in each case.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals experiencing similar issues with audio equipment picking up radio signals, as well as those curious about the technical aspects of audio transmission and interference.

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I have poorly made computer speakers - Logitech X-530. They sometimes pick up AM radio stations and pops up when lightning is turned off. What AM radio frequency is picked up by computer speakers? I am curious becaous some kinds of popping is picked up by computer speakers but it is not picked up by AM radio on frequency about 1600 kHz.
 
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hi there konrado5
welcome to PF :smile:

konrado5 said:
I have poorly made computer speakers - Logitech X-530. They sometimes pick up AM radio stations and pops up when lightning is turned off. What AM radio frequency is picked up by computer speakers? I am curious because some kinds of popping is picked up by computer speakers but it is not picked up by AM radio on frequency about 1600 kHz.

radio signals being picked up by audio gear is a problem as old as the 2 of them have been around.
commonly caused by close proximity to a radio/TV station transmitter and the signal is easily overloading and being received by the audio gear

Either the cable between your computer and the speakers and or the cable between amplifier and speaker acting as an antenna
The signal is brought into the amplifier where is rectified/demodulated by the diode junction within anyone of the transistors of the amplifier
then amplified and outputted to the speaker(s) along with the computer sound

RF chokes ( a few turns of the speaker cable(s) or input cable wound around a ferrite core along with some small value ceramic capacitors across
the speaker lines and input line will often help ( capacitor values of around 0.01 - 0.1 uF could be experimented with)cheers
Dave
 
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Perhaps I written this post not clearly enough but my question is merely question caused by curiosity. What AM frequency is picked up if speakers acting as an antenna?
 
konrado5 said:
Perhaps I written this post not clearly enough but my question is merely question caused by curiosity.

you did and I answered :smile:

konrado5 said:
What AM frequency is picked up if speakers acting as an antenna?

since there is no specific tuned circuits in the cables/amplifier system, it will be prone to picking up the strongest signal there is nearby
As I said, it may be a radio or a TV station ... It may even be a CB radio or a commercial VHF vehicle radio ... in say a taxi or a courier truck etc

many years ago, when I lived in a different country, there was a PA system in a hall, I operated and looked after with several other colleagues
We were regularly plagued with taxi cabs that would sit outside the building and use they radio to talk back to base and their audio would come
blasting through the PA speakers. Those radios were on around 75 MHz and 10W transmit

Other times I have seen gear from people that live within 5 - 10 km of a radio or TV broadcast transmitter and the RF signal can get into all sorts of electronics
AM radio stations are typically around 10 kW transmit power and TV stations can be up around 100 kW. It can cause all sorts of weird problems

maybe you have a station nearby ??cheers
Dave
 
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In addition to what davenn has described..
I too have experienced this phenomenon. At college when I wired speakers to the kitchen, my source signal (stereo receiver/turntable/CD player) was located in a distant room. When i played jazz or classical music through my speakers, during in the quiet sections I could hear a radio station. The long length of speaker wire across the apartment was probably acting as an antenna and coupled the signal into my wires and ultimately to my speakers.

To find out what radio frequency it was. I took an AM/FM receiver and tuned across both bands until I found the station. It turned out to be our local college AM station WBAA on 920kHz. This is an example of what davenn described, the signal coming from a nearby AM station. The WBAA broadcast studio is on campus and the transmitter, over the ouabache river in the neighboring town. A digitally tunable AM receiver will show you what frequency is being picked up. Alternatively, if you listen; every broadcast station will identify with their call letters at least once per hour. If they don't happen to mention the broadcast frequency, you can look up their call letters on the web and quickly find out the frequency.
 
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