Looking for a picture of black body radiation from an oven

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A user is seeking an illustration of black body radiation from an oven, highlighting the concept of the "view factor" and the indistinguishability of objects in thermal equilibrium. They recall a specific image showing an open hot oven with pottery that became less visible as it heated. Despite extensive searching on Google, they have been unable to locate this image or a similar one. Additionally, they express interest in finding a simple proof that demonstrates how thermodynamic equilibrium results in the indistinguishability of objects in an oven. The discussion emphasizes the importance of visual aids in understanding thermal radiation concepts.
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Hello,

looking for a picture of black body radiation from an oven

Years ago I had found a nice illustration.
An opened hot oven was shown.
The pottery inside could hardly be seen.
This illustrated what I believe is one of most important aspect of a black body.
If is specially useful to illustrate the origin and role of the "view factor".
Indeed, would the objects be replaced by a plate, a sphere, or anything else, the picture would remain the same if the thermal equilibrium conditions are satisfied. Objects cannot be distinguished.

I even remember that there were two picture: first before warming the oven, the second for the hot oven.

Unfortunately, I spent one hour looking for this picture or a similar one with google, and I could not find it!

Could some of you indicate me where I could find such a nice picture, even in some book (hopefully on google preview or amazon preview).

Thanks,

Michel


Bonus question
I would also be interrested to find the simplest proof that thermodynamic equilibrium leads to the fact illustrated by the picture: no object could be distinguished in an oven at thermodynamic equilibrium.
 
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