Loop-the-Loop, work-energy problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a car navigating a loop-the-loop. For part A, the minimum height H required for the car to complete the loop without falling off is determined to be H = (5/2)R. In part B, with R set at 20m and H at 3.5R, the speed at the top of the loop is calculated to be approximately 31.3 m/s, and the radial acceleration is found to be 49 m/s². The participants express uncertainty about calculating the tangential acceleration, suggesting the need to analyze the net forces acting on the car at the top of the loop. Overall, the conversation focuses on applying conservation of energy and Newton's laws to solve the work-energy problem.
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Homework Statement



A car starts at a point A at a height H above the bottom of the loop the loop. It is starting from rest and we ignore friction.

A) what is minimum value of H in terms of R such that the car moves around the loop without falling off at the top point B.

B) If R=20m and H=3.5R calculate the speed, radial and tangential acceleration



The Attempt at a Solution



A) total energy at A is equal to mgH. total energy at B is equal to mg2R + .5mv^2

Solving for H gives H=2R+v^2/2g. Minimum velocity at B is mg=(mv^2/R) V62=Rg

Substituting gives H=5/2R. Not sure if this is correct...

B) to find speed: mg(3.5R)=mgR+.5mv^2, masses cancel. v=sqrt(5gR)=sqrt(5*9.8*20)=31.3m/s

radial acceleration=5gR/R=5g=49m/s^2

I don't know how to find tangential acceleration...

Thanks for the help
 
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armolinasf said:

Homework Statement



A car starts at a point A at a height H above the bottom of the loop the loop. It is starting from rest and we ignore friction.

A) what is minimum value of H in terms of R such that the car moves around the loop without falling off at the top point B.

B) If R=20m and H=3.5R calculate the speed, radial and tangential acceleration



The Attempt at a Solution



A) total energy at A is equal to mgH. total energy at B is equal to mg2R + .5mv^2

Solving for H gives H=2R+v^2/2g. Minimum velocity at B is mg=(mv^2/R) V62=Rg

Substituting gives H=5/2R. Not sure if this is correct...
yes, but be sure to right it correctly ... H = (5/2)R = 2.5 R
B) to find speed: mg(3.5R)=mgR ...
whoops, that's 2mgR + ...etc.
radial acceleration=5gR/R=5g=49m/s^2
correct your error in calculating v
I don't know how to find tangential acceleration...
To find the tangential acceleration at the top of the loop, you should first find the tangential net force at the top of the loop, then use Newton's laws. What is the tangential (horizontal) net force at the top of the loop?
 
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