Loss of energy in the system as a result of the collision

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The discussion focuses on calculating the loss of energy in a system following a collision between two particles with different masses and speeds. Initially, the kinetic energy before the collision is calculated, yielding a total of 74mu^2. After determining the final velocities using momentum conservation, the kinetic energy after the collision is found to be (5mu^2)/8. The loss of energy is then calculated as the difference between the initial and final kinetic energies, resulting in a loss of 73(3/8)mu^2. The conversation emphasizes the importance of using momentum conservation rather than energy conservation in inelastic collisions.
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Homework Statement



Particle A with mass 2m and particle B with mass 5m move towards each other with speeds of 8u and 2u respectively on a smooth horizontal plane . After the collision , particle B moces with speed u in a direction opposite to that of the original direction . Find in terms of m and u , the loss of enerygy in the system as a result of the collision .


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The Attempt at a Solution



0.5(2m)(8u)^2-0.5(5m)(2u)^2=0.5(5m)(u)^2+0.5(2m)(v')^2

simplify and

v'^2=(107u^2)/2

this is the velocity of particle A after collision.

I am not sure how to relate this to the loss of energy , i thought of doing

Loss of enerygy=(0.5)(m)((107u^2)/2) but it doesn't make sense
 
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The question already tells you explicitly that energy is not conserved in the collision. How can you then use conservation of energy (and what's with the minus sign in your equation?) to tackle the problem?
There's something else that is definitely conserved - and that is encapsulated in the title of your post itself.
 


Fightfish said:
The question already tells you explicitly that energy is not conserved in the collision. How can you then use conservation of energy (and what's with the minus sign in your equation?) to tackle the problem?
There's something else that is definitely conserved - and that is encapsulated in the title of your post itself.

ok attempt no2 :

Yes momentum is conserved -

2m(8u)-(2u)(5m)=2mv'+5mu

v'=u/2 ---1

KE before collision = (0.5)(2m)(8u)^2+(0.5)(5m)(2u)^2=74mu^2

KE after collision=(0.5)(m)(u/2)^2+(0.5)(m)(u)^2=(5mu^2)/(8)

take the difference , KE loss = 73(3/8)mu^2

correct ?
 
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