M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship

In summary, the M-sigma relationship is tight because of the physical connection between black hole mass and velocity dispersion, while the M-M_bulge relationship is looser due to the complex nature of galaxy formation and evolution.
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Why is the M-sigma relationship so tight, but the M-M_bulge relationship much looser?

Don't the theories that black hole growth and star formation are coupled only explain why M_BH would be correlated with M_bulge? We might expect sigma to follow to an extent due to the stars having roughly Keplerian orbits, but why would it be more strongly correlated?
 
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The M-sigma relationship is so tight because the two quantities are closely related to each other. Supermassive black holes at galactic centers are thought to be the main source of the observed velocity dispersion. As the mass of the black hole increases, the galaxy's gravitational potential deepens, increasing the velocity dispersion of its stars. Therefore, the tighter correlation between M_BH and sigma reflects the physical processes that control the behavior of the stars in the galaxy. The M-M_bulge relationship is looser because the bulge mass is not directly connected to the supermassive black hole. Instead, it is a measure of the stellar mass contained in the central region of the galaxy. While there may be a correlation between bulge mass and black hole mass due to theories that black hole growth and star formation are coupled, it is not as strong as the correlation between M_BH and sigma. This is likely because the formation and evolution of galaxies is a complex process that involves many different factors, such as gas accretion, mergers, and feedback from supermassive black holes. The looser correlation between M_BH and M_bulge reflects this complexity.
 

1. What is the M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship?

The M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship is a correlation between the mass of a galaxy's central supermassive black hole (M) and the velocity dispersion of stars in its bulge (sigma). This relationship suggests that the more massive the black hole, the faster the stars in the bulge are moving.

2. How was the M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship discovered?

The M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship was first observed in the 1990s by studying the properties of galaxies with active galactic nuclei. Further studies using various methods, such as analyzing the dynamics of stars and gas in galaxies, have confirmed this relationship.

3. What does the M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship tell us about galaxy evolution?

The M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship suggests that the growth of a galaxy's central supermassive black hole is closely linked to the formation and evolution of its bulge. This relationship provides insights into the co-evolution of galaxies and their central black holes.

4. How does the M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship impact our understanding of black holes?

The M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship is an important piece of evidence that supports the existence of supermassive black holes in the centers of galaxies. It also helps us understand the role of black holes in the formation and evolution of galaxies.

5. Are there any exceptions to the M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship?

While the M-sigma vs. M-M_bulge relationship holds true for the majority of galaxies, there are some exceptions. For instance, some galaxies with very massive black holes have lower velocity dispersions than expected based on this relationship. This may be due to other factors, such as galaxy mergers, that can also influence the growth of a black hole.

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