Magnetic field above a thin charged disc

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Homework Statement


A thin disc of radius R carries a surface charge \sigma. It rotates with angular frequency \omega about the z axis, which is perpendicular to the disc and through its center. What is B along the z axis?


Homework Equations


General Biot-Savart law:
B(x) = \frac{\mu_{0}}{4\pi}\int\frac{J(x') x (x-x')}{|x-x'|}d^{3}x'

K \equiv \frac{dI}{dl_{perpendicular}}
K = \sigmav


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm wondering if the general form Biot-Savart law can be 'generalized' to a 2-D surface current density K instead, and if the form would be the same?
Giving:
B(x) = \frac{\mu_{0}}{4\pi}\int\frac{K(x') x (x-x')}{|x-x'|}d^{2}x'
 
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I don't follow your equations, you aren't using a standard notation. Regardless, you don't need to use a surface current. You can treat every infinitesimal interval of radius dr as a loop of current. Integrate the equation for field from a current loop over r from 0 to R
 
Hi russdot, try using \vec{B} instead of B in your LaTeX equations, and put the whole equation in LaTeX to make it easier to read.

The Biot-Savart Law for a surface current is:

\vec{B}(\vec{r})=\frac{\mu _0}{4 \pi} \int \frac{\vec{K}(\vec{r'}) \times \widehat{\vec{r}-\vec{r'}}}{|\vec{r}-\vec{r'}|^2} d^3r'

Such integrals are tedious to evaluate, so if you are allowed to use Ampere's law or calculate the vector potential \vec{A} first, I would do that.
 
Hi gabbagabbahey,
Thanks for the tips, I'm still getting used to the LaTeX notation.

marcusl,
Ok, and then each infinitesimal loop will have a current I = \sigma 2 \pi R dr.
 
russdot said:
Hi gabbagabbahey,
Thanks for the tips, I'm still getting used to the LaTeX notation.

marcusl,
Ok, and then each infinitesimal loop will have a current I = \sigma 2 \pi R dr.

You're welcome:smile:

Shouldn't each loop have a current of 2 \pi r \sigma \omega dr?:wink:
 
Ah yes, I really should eat some food...
but since \vec{I} = \lambda \vec{v}
and \lambda = \sigma 2 \pi dr
and \vec{v} = r \vec{\omega}
then \vec{I} = \sigma 2 \pi \vec{\omega} r dr, correct?
 
Yep, looks good to me (my sigma didn't show up right the first time)...what then is the magnetic field of each loop? What do you get for the total magnetic field?
 
gabbagabbahey said:
what then is the magnetic field of each loop?
For the magnetic field of each loop (along Z axis), I get:
\vec{B}(z) = \frac{\mu_{0}}{4 \pi} \int \frac{\sigma 2 \pi \omega x'^{2} (\hat{\phi} \times \hat{r})dx'd\phi}{x'^{2} + z^{2}}
where \hat{\phi} \times \hat{\r} = \hat{k}cos\psi + \hat{R}sin\psi
(\psi is the angle between\vec{r} = \vec{x} - \vec{x}' and \hat{R} where \hat{R} is the cylindrical radial unit vector)

the sin\psi term integrates out to zero, because \hat{R} = \hat{i}cos\phi + \hat{j}sin\phi and I used the trig substitution cos\psi = \frac{x'}{\sqrt{x'^{2} + z^{2}}}

\vec{B}(z) = \mu_{0} \pi \sigma \omega \int_{0}^{R} \frac{ x'^{3} dx'}{(x'^{2} + z^{2})^{3/2}} \hat{k}

gabbagabbahey said:
What do you get for the total magnetic field?
Which gives a total magnetic field:
\vec{B}(z) = \mu_{0} \pi \sigma \omega (\frac{2z^{2} + R^2}{\sqrt{z^{2} + R^{2}}} - 2z) \hat{k}
 
Uhm... wouldn't the current flowing through an infinitesimal loop be the charge divided by a period T=\frac{2\pi}{\omega} ?
so
i=\sigma\omega rdr

P.s: how did you resolve the integral? Substituction with sinh(t) ? Are there any faster method?
 
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