Magnetic field at a point along the solenoid's axis but outside the solenoid

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electromagnetic field (EMF) induced by a solenoid, specifically focusing on the magnetic field at a point along the solenoid's axis but outside its length. Participants explore the challenges of determining the vector magnetic field inductance in this context.

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  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a personal project requiring the calculation of EMF induced by a solenoid, noting that the secondary circuit for eddy currents is outside the solenoid's length but still on its axis.
  • Another participant provides a formula for the magnetic field in Gaussian units, expressing concern about LaTeX formatting issues.
  • A participant suggests looking up the magnetic field for a current loop at a distance along its axis and integrating over the length of the solenoid to find the necessary parameters.
  • There are mentions of formatting errors in the LaTeX equations, with participants pointing out missing brackets and unbalanced braces in the expressions.
  • A later reply shares a link to a related thread, potentially offering additional insights or solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the calculation methods or the magnetic field behavior outside the solenoid, indicating that multiple views and uncertainties remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the magnetic field's behavior outside the solenoid's length, and there are unresolved issues related to the mathematical expressions provided.

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For a personal project, I need to calculate the EMF induced by a solenoid, the problem is, that the secondary circuiit where the eddy currents are formed are outside the solenoid's length but on it's axis.
For a personal project, I need to calculate the EMF induced by a solenoid, the problem is, that the secondary circuit where the eddy currents are formed are outside the solenoid's length but still on it's axis.
The problem comes when i need to calculate the vector magnetic field inductance at a point outside the solenoid, i've been searching for quite a while but I have not managed to find an awnser, I just find keep finding that the net magnetic field vector due to ampere's law is near zero, but outsithe the radious of the solenoid, not ousithe the length of the solenoid
A graphical representation of my problem:

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In Gaussian units, B is
$$B=\frac{2\pi nI}{c}\left[\frac{L/2-z}{\sqrt{(z-L/2)^2+a^2},
+\frac{(z+L/2)}{\sqrt{(z+L/2)^2+a^2}}\right]$$,
where ##n## is the number of turns per cm, ##I## is the current, ##a## is the radius, and ##z## is the distance along the axis from the center.
Why isn't latex working?
 
turo_loler said:
TL;DR Summary: For a personal project, I need to calculate the EMF induced by a solenoid, the problem is, that the secondary circuiit where the eddy currents are formed are outside the solenoid's length but on it's axis.

The problem comes when i need to calculate the vector magnetic field inductance at a point outside the solenoid
Google the magnetic field in axis of a current loop a distance ##z## from the loop (the off-axis field is moderately nasty but the on axis field is a simple expression). Then work out how many turns per unit length you have and integrate over the length of the solenoid.
Meir Achuz said:
Why isn't latex working?
You have unbalanced {} in the denominator of the first fraction inside the square brackets.
 
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Meir Achuz said:
In Gaussian units, B is
$$B=\frac{2\pi nI}{c}\left[\frac{L/2-z}{\sqrt{(z-L/2)^2+a^2}}
+\frac{(z+L/2)}{\sqrt{(z+L/2)^2+a^2}}\right]$$,
where ##n## is the number of turns per cm, ##I## is the current, ##a## is the radius, and ##z## is the distance along the axis from the center.
Why isn't latex working?
It was a missing bracket in the first frac.
 
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Ibix said:
Google the magnetic field in axis of a current loop a distance ##z## from the loop (the off-axis field is moderately nasty but the on axis field is a simple expression). Then work out how many turns per unit length you have and integrate over the length of the solenoid.

You have unbalanced {} in the denominator of the first fraction inside the square brackets.
Perfect, just what i needed, thnks!
 
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