Magnetic field at center of loop

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnetic field at the center of a loop created by a straight conductor and a circular coil. The formula for the magnetic field from a long straight conductor, B = u0I / (2pi*d), is initially applied but is deemed incorrect due to the presence of the loop. The correct calculation for the magnetic field at the center of the loop is derived as B_loop = u0I / (2R) when z = 0. The participant struggles with the addition of the magnetic fields from both the straight conductor and the loop, seeking clarification on the conceptual reasoning behind this approach. The principle of superposition is highlighted, explaining that the magnetic fields can be calculated separately and then summed to find the total magnetic field.
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1. What is the magnetic field at the center of the loop in the figure ?

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2. Ampere's Law



3. If the surface integral of B*ds = Bl = 2*pi*d = u0*I:

B = u0I / (2pi*d) = 5*5-5 T, which is wrong.
 
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B = u0I / (2pi*d)
This formula is for a long straight conductor.
In the given problem in addition to the straight conductor, one circular loop is also present.
Find the field at the center of the circular coil and add it to the above.
 
Still not getting it.

I calculated B_loop = u0IR2/[2(z2+R2)3/2]

With z = 0 because we're at the center of the loop, it reduces to B = u0I/2R = 3.15*10-4.

Adding that to my first answer yields 3.65*10-4
 
I know the answer is 4.14*10-4 so I muse be making some sort of small calculation error...
 
Could somebody also explain, conceptually, why I would calculate B for a straight conductor and a loop and add them? For example, why would I calculate B for the full length of the conductor if some of it isn't straight (i.e. is looped)? Or is that part of my mistake here?
 

B = u0I / (2pi*d) = 5*5-5 T

Check this calculation. Here d = 1 cm.
 
why is d = 1cm and not 2cm? Is it the radius of the loop? Why not call it r?
 
d is the distance from the straight wire, which is 1 cm.
 
Linus Pauling said:
Could somebody also explain, conceptually, why I would calculate B for a straight conductor and a loop and add them? For example, why would I calculate B for the full length of the conductor if some of it isn't straight (i.e. is looped)? Or is that part of my mistake here?

Suppose that you could see the electrons flowing. The straight part of the wire in this problem looks exactly like a normal straight wire: the electrons are flowing in a straight line from one end to the other. The circular part looks exactly like a normal circular current loop: the electrons seem to be going in circles. Due to the principle of superposition, you can calculate the magnetic field induced by the straight part and the circular part and add them to get the resultant field.
 
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Thanks
 
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