Magnetic Field Between Coaxial Cylinders

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The problem involves two long thin concentric perfectly conducting cylindrical shells connected by a resistor and a battery, establishing a current and a potential difference. The task is to find the magnetic field between the cylinders using Ampere's law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Ampere's law but expresses uncertainty about assumptions regarding current density and the approach to solving for the magnetic field. Some participants suggest assuming uniform current density and using the integral form of Ampere's law, while also noting the significance of radial symmetry in the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the assumptions about current density and the application of Ampere's law. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the integral form of Ampere's law and the implications of radial symmetry.

Contextual Notes

The original poster is preparing for an exam and is seeking urgent assistance, indicating a time constraint. There is also a mention of the field inside the cylinders being zero, which may influence the discussion on the magnetic field in the region of interest.

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Homework Statement


Two long thin concentric perfectly conducting cylindrical shells of radii a and b (a<b) are connected together at one end by a resistor of resistance R, and at the other by a battery that establishes a potential difference V. Thus, a current I=V/R flows in opposite directions along each of the cylinders.

Using Ampere's law, find the magnetic field B in between the cylinders.


Homework Equations


Ampere's Law: \nabla \times B = \mu (J +\epsilon \frac{\partial{E}}{\partial{t}})


The Attempt at a Solution



Assuming I have got what I think is Ampere's law correct, I'm really not sure where to go on this one - I know we can infer a few assumptions about the fact the shells are 'perfectly conducting' but I'm not sure what exactly, and so I don't know how exactly to proceed - is J uniform, for example?

In addition, once I have an equation in Ampere's law, do I have to solve things component-wise to get B out of Curl(B) or is there a smarter way to do it?

I'm revising for an exam on Tuesday and I'm really stuck on this one so any help would be appreciated as urgently as you can manage!

Many thanks :-)
 
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yes, assume uniform J.

you'd better use the integral form of ampere's law.

the field between the two cylinders would be the field due to the inner cyl only.

(the field inside a cylinder is zero.)
 
graphene said:
yes, assume uniform J.

you'd better use the integral form of ampere's law.

the field between the two cylinders would be the field due to the inner cyl only.

(the field inside a cylinder is zero.)

The conclusion in parentheses is a product of the integral form of Ampere's Law:

\oint \vec B \cdot \vec{d\ell}} = \mu_0 I_{pen}

where I_{pen} is the current that penetrates whatever surface you attach to your loop (With the sign of the current determined by the right hand rule and the direction you choose to march in).

In this problem you can assume radially symmetry for \vec B which makes it especially simple since you don't need to use the concept of current density at all.

What makes coaxial cables interesting isn't the field inside, but rather the field outside, use Ampere's Law to find that, and you may be surprised. ;)
 

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